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05-25-2005, 06:02 PM
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Country:  | And in any case, incorrect. In British Army parlance, at least, a 'gun' is the next step up from a cannon. Hence the oft-repeated phrase of weapon instructors in my cadet section;
"Its not a bloody gun, its a weapon. Guns have TRACKS!!!!"
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05-25-2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass rather ironically that's more true than you think as the breech, or "ass" of cannons is generally larger than that of MGs......... | Once more into the breach, dear friends
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05-25-2005, 06:09 PM
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Country: | Most Army instructors are turds though. Something with tracks is normally a tractor or a tank.
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05-26-2005, 01:03 PM
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#19 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | or self-propeled artiliary/mortars (i know these are next to non-existant today)............
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05-26-2005, 08:39 PM
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05-26-2005, 11:00 PM
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| [quote="plan_D"]Are they? What the hell is a M109A6 Paladin doing in the Iraqi desert then!?[/quote="plan_D"]
Besides getting my friends killed and wasting my tax money?
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05-27-2005, 01:35 AM
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05-27-2005, 01:38 PM
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#23 | | Master of Ewes
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Originally Posted by plan_D You do know that the Paladin is a U.S SPG, right? Or are you friends with Iraqis? | Yes, I am quite aware what a Paladin is and nope on the Iraqis...two American buddies killed over there though.
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05-27-2005, 08:45 PM
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Country: | I think the point was that if we got the kids thinking of a gun something AS90 kind of size, they might start valling thier Individual Weapons...well...Individual Weapons 
And not all the instructors were turds...I was one of 'em! 
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05-31-2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D You do know that the Paladin is a U.S SPG, right? Or are you friends with Iraqis? | Yes, I am quite aware what a Paladin is and nope on the Iraqis...two American buddies killed over there though. | Okay then how is it getting your buddies killed. I just returned from Iraq I dont recall any Iraqi's attacking us with US Paladins. Sorry I just dont get your post there.
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06-01-2005, 07:32 AM
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Country: | I know of a Paladin which blew up because the shell got caught in the chamber. Maybe that's what he's talking about.
That one incident can't be a solid foundation for building up the image of the Paladin being a waste of money.
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06-01-2005, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Quote: |
Originally Posted by unpunk01 Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D You do know that the Paladin is a U.S SPG, right? Or are you friends with Iraqis? | Yes, I am quite aware what a Paladin is and nope on the Iraqis...two American buddies killed over there though. | Okay then how is it getting your buddies killed. I just returned from Iraq I dont recall any Iraqi's attacking us with US Paladins. Sorry I just dont get your post there. | It is taking part in the war where he lost his buddies. Honestly!
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06-01-2005, 01:11 PM
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#29 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by plan_D I know of a Paladin which blew up because the shell got caught in the chamber. Maybe that's what he's talking about.
That one incident can't be a solid foundation for building up the image of the Paladin being a waste of money. | I agree. I just dont quite understand his argument. If he is implying that the Paladin is used by the Iraqis then he needs to get his facts straight. I just want to know what he is talking about.
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06-01-2005, 01:13 PM
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#30 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Chocks away! Quote: |
Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Quote: |
Originally Posted by unpunk01 Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D You do know that the Paladin is a U.S SPG, right? Or are you friends with Iraqis? | Yes, I am quite aware what a Paladin is and nope on the Iraqis...two American buddies killed over there though. | Okay then how is it getting your buddies killed. I just returned from Iraq I dont recall any Iraqi's attacking us with US Paladins. Sorry I just dont get your post there. | It is taking part in the war where he lost his buddies. Honestly! | Yes but that is quite irrelevent. The war is killing his buddies not him. We lost helicopters down there and the helicopter did not kill them and I dont think the Blackawk is a waste of money.
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