 | Eagle Squadron kills?| Aviation Discuss Eagle Squadron kills? in the World War II - Aviation forums; Yep. The Luftwaffe run camps were no fun, obviouosly, but they were treated fairly well. I once read a story ... |
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09-16-2005, 08:59 AM
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#31 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | Yep. The Luftwaffe run camps were no fun, obviouosly, but they were treated fairly well. I once read a story where a group of SS camp to a Stalag Luft looking for Jewish POWs. Somehow, the Luftwaffe turned them away and refused to relinquish anyone. It was good that they maintained a level of respect and courtesy to their captives, unlike the Japanese.
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09-16-2005, 02:41 PM
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#32 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | I didn't know Luftwaffe ran camps. I always thought that they were all run by SS, no matter if it was a pilot POW camp, a standard POW camp or an extermination camp.
I met three WW II veterans in my life. The first one was Charles "Charly" Forbes and two others (I can't remember their names). One of them was captured by the German near Cherbourg and the other one was captured by the Japenese early in the war and was captured again by the German later.
The guy that was captured near Cherbourg had the rank of "Sergent" and told us that the SS threated officers better than under-officers and that under-officers were threated better than privates. He was taken to two different POW camps... I can remember only the last one he was taken to : "Stalag XII-A". He showed us a picture of the gate that was either taken by the German or the Allied troops when they freed them.
The second one was a private. He said that German were better than Japenese. German didn't gave much to eat... but at least they gave them something to eat !
Both agreed on one point though : you learned German/Japenese very fast in POW camps... | 
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09-16-2005, 02:50 PM
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#33 | | Master of Ewes
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I didn't know Luftwaffe ran camps. I always thought that they were all run by SS
| the camp in the great escape is a luftwaffe camp..........
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09-16-2005, 04:00 PM
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#34 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Typically, captured pilots and aircrews went to Stalag Luft camps, run by the Luftwaffe. They had separate areas for the officers and enlisted. I am not completely sure about ground troops, but I think they were run by the Wehrmacht. The SS were involved in some of the interrogations, but not always.
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09-17-2005, 04:21 AM
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Country: | The ground troop PoW camps were run by the Wehrmacht. The SS only ran concentration camps and labour camps.
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09-17-2005, 07:29 AM
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#36 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I too dont want to get started on the movie Pearl Harbor. It was a total piece of ****. Had no historical value and was completely incorrect.
Now my take on the Eagle Squadron. I dont want to take away from them because as someone has already posted they did not have to be there and there contribution was atleast symbolically great. I for one am greatful for there courage and the fact that they volunteered but as even said they were only a very small part. I dont like it when some people on here (not going to name names) try and make them out to be the savior of England.
Even, remember when he tried to tell you that you were wrong for not putting more emphasis on the Eagle Squadron at your BoB display at the museum? Jeesus that pissed me off. The BoB was England's finest moment, dont take it away from them. I think you did a great job Even on your project and good way to handle that guy.
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09-17-2005, 10:13 AM
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#37 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Well, that facts don't lie. If we had put incorrect facts up in the museum, I am sure that someone would call us on it. Believe it or not, we get Brits in to our museum very often. I hear an English accent every time I am there and believe me, if they came from England and are swinging by our museum, they know the facts about the BoB. We get complemented on the BoB display all the time.
I would have been fine with the error if I had not been accused of being a revisionist historian.
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09-17-2005, 10:22 AM
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The second one was a private. He said that German were better than Japenese. German didn't gave much to eat... but at least they gave them something to eat !
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09-17-2005, 10:50 AM
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#39 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by evangilder Well, that facts don't lie. If we had put incorrect facts up in the museum, I am sure that someone would call us on it. Believe it or not, we get Brits in to our museum very often. I hear an English accent every time I am there and believe me, if they came from England and are swinging by our museum, they know the facts about the BoB. We get complemented on the BoB display all the time.
I would have been fine with the error if I had not been accused of being a revisionist historian. | And you set up the display right. Good job :P
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