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Old 05-24-2005, 12:33 AM   #16
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After reading all this, I'd go with the Ki-84 too.

The ShVAK 20mm on the Yak-3 is a good weapon but one isn't enough. If you're going to mix .50s and 20s - you've got to really have at least two of each.

The Yak-3U is going to have a better punch with the two B-20s but the Ki-84 is always going to be better armed. My personal choice for armament would be the Ki-84-Ia with 2*50s and 2*20mm.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:15 AM   #17
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The Ki-84-Ia is probably the cleanest of them all, good choice, Plan_D!
However, I rate the Ki-84-II with 1990 hp engine the best of this series (The Ki-84-I is slower).
Diving probably goes to Frank, agreed but keep in mind that buffeting is more (sooner) a problem to the Frank than to the Yak.
In terms of climb and acceleration the Yak-3U is far superior, the Yak-3 slightly superior to any Yak, Glider.
One thing to add: If you calculate the recoil forces properly than each full purst of four 20mm would shake the Ki-84 considerably, with two 30mm of them it would reduce itīs speed while firing...
I would still go for the Yak (esspeccially Yak-3U) but itīs really a close decision. A Yak is a much smaller target to hit and highly agile over a wide area of speed.
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By the way, has anyone any info about clashes between JAAF and VVS in mid 1945? I know that the japanese manchurian army was crushed by the red army (probably with air support), so their are possibilities of encounters between those fighters. I would like to know if their are any reports or combat records. Any help greatly welcome!
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The only thing I have is the JAAF was out-numbered 2-1 by the VVS. What aircraft they used, I don't know. I only get that information from this little section in the back of one of my books about the Soviet Union defeating the Kwangtung Army.
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That I can confirm. I thought there should be more informations about these clashes...
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