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07-23-2008, 08:36 PM
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I did a quick search and couldn't find an existing thread, so...
Which is the better aircraft? I will not be posting much data as I 1) am not that knowledgable technically, so this should be good and 2) I'm here to learn, and I don't have access to all the resources some of you guys have.
Personally, I'm partial to the F4U, but this thread is NOT here to choose favourites, but rather to determine which the better plane was and why. Have at 'er!
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Country: | Well the other thread is kind of old. (last post in '06, and the essay one is a bit of a different topic)
Anyway, try using the google search feature, it's usually more helpful for these kind of searches.
My search: P-51 F4U - Google Search | |
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Originally Posted by magnocain  Corsair wins. | unless you are escorting heavies at high altitude
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Country: | Kinda off topic, but does a game like Il Sturmovik really portray the Mustangs manuverability accurately?
Or does it hype it up?
I do like all the stall characteristics in Sturmovik, even though it can be annoying when your plane crashes from too tight a turn. But still, it helps make the planes feel more realistic.
and again, I know it's just a game.
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Country: | Which the Corsair was capable of, albeit not quite as good as the P-51. But even in comparison to the lighter P-51B the F4U-1 was comperable in speed and superior in climb up to 24,000 ft with both a/c in comparable loadouts. (configured for similar range) http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...1-navycomp.pdf
The F4U-1 also had superior high-alt performance to contemporary Fw-190's and 109's (except for high alt 109's with GM-1 or DB-603 supercharger).
Though I haven't seen a cost comparison for the F4U, I'd assume it would be more expensive than the P-51 (though probably a bit cheaper than the P-47) and it would use ~50% more fuel than the P-51.
But the F4U was much better in other roles, Fighter-Bomber and Dive Bomber (except A-36), strafing: carried much more ammo 6x 400 rpg, compared to 4x 400 or 2x 400 + 4x 265 for the P-51D. (much less for the B/C)
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Country: | The turning characteristics in Il-2 (4.07/4.08 -1946-) seem pretty well matched to reality. And the stalls are great, particularly modeling the particular characteristic of different a/c. (including slats, featured on quite a few a/c)
THe only general (significant) problems I've encountered in performance is that the jets don't seem to accelerate and retain speed properly at altitude.
The biggest flaw I've found is thatthe damage modeling, while possibly the best of any CFS, doesn't model cooling systems/radiators. (odd since they do model oil coolers and oil tanks)
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07-24-2008, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Catch22 I did a quick search and couldn't find an existing thread, so...
Which is the better aircraft? I will not be posting much data as I 1) am not that knowledgable technically, so this should be good and 2) I'm here to learn, and I don't have access to all the resources some of you guys have.
Personally, I'm partial to the F4U, but this thread is NOT here to choose favourites, but rather to determine which the better plane was and why. Have at 'er! | In my opinion this discussion is about which models you are comparing and which pilots are flying them and who spots the other first.
Overall Mission capability - dogfighter, close air support, carrier ops and I would give the edge to Corsair
Air superiority, long range escort, maybe even high altitude interceptor and I would give the edge to the P-51 and particularly the P-51H over any variant of the F4U.
The airplane that is most ignored in these discussions is the P51B-15 with Malcom Hood and the 1650-7 engine on 44-1 fuel. Only the P-51H is superior Mustang variant.
My father got 3-1-1 in the air in his first two weeks in this bird, then converted to a P-51D and got 4-1-1 for the next 10 months. He always had a great affection for acceleration, climb and turn performance in that B-15 over all variants of the P-51D | |
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What is 3-1-1 and 4-1-1?
Is it 3 kills, 1 damaged, 1 probable?
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Originally Posted by Thorlifter Drgondog,
What is 3-1-1 and 4-1-1?
Is it 3 kills, 1 damaged, 1 probable? | Yes but destroyed-probable-damaged in that order | |
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