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Old 12-22-2006, 04:49 PM   #1
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Favourite Airframe and Engine Combo

If you could choose any prop fighter airframe which saw service in ww2 and fit any internal combustion engine which saw service in ww2, which would they be?

Mine would be a Yak 3 fitted with a Daimler Benz DB 605 ASC (M) engine

Apparently the Yak 3 could achieve 401 mph with a 1290 hp Klimov VK 105 engine, which seems quite respectable
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Old 12-22-2006, 05:25 PM   #2
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I'd pair the P&W R-2800 with the P-47 bubble canopy ... uh ... yeah.
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Old 12-22-2006, 06:26 PM   #3
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A P-38 with 2 Merlins, just for the hell of it!
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Old 12-22-2006, 06:40 PM   #4
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Alright how about a Fairey Swordfish with a Pratt Whitney R4360
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Alright how about a Fairey Swordfish with a Pratt Whitney R4360
Don't you mean a Pratt Whitney R4360 with a Fairey Swordfish?
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Old 12-22-2006, 07:08 PM   #6
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Bristol Centarus with a Whirlwind airframe, for the ultimate low alt Jabo.

Griffon 85 with a Mosquito XVI airframe.

Jumo 213 with a Ki-61
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I would say Spitfire with a Merlin but that would kind of defeat the point of this.

So in that case I will say P-38 or Whirlwind with twin Merlins or Griffons.
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Mosquito with RR Crecy
Fw 190D with DB603n
BV 238 with four Lycoming XR-7755
B24 with RR Pennine.
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A Bf-109 with a nice DB-603 engine equipped with the MW and GM system

Or how about a Fw-190 Dora equipped with a Jumo 222 C/D engine with a output of 2,206 KW at Take Off power, or a Jumo 211 J with a output of 1,912 KW at Take Off power.

Jumo 222
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Fw 190D with DB603
Did you ever heard about Fw 190D-14 prototypes, or Ta 152C variants?
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Old 12-23-2006, 04:28 AM   #11
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Well since this is about your favorite not about the best I would take a Bf-109 with a DB-605DM or L.
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My favorite hybrid is Spitfire Mk.V with Bf 109G engine (i.e. DB 605A). All the best of both types in one aircraft!

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Well since this is about your favorite not about the best I would take a Bf-109 with a DB-605DM or L.
very nice! The Bf 109... particularly F variants, has always been my favorite airframe... there's just something magical about them...
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simple and sound:

airframe: Me-163D, slightly modified to accomodate the
engine: HeS30, a lightweighted axial jet engine designed by Adolph Müller, which weighted 2.2 times the weight of the HWK 509 rocket engine but only half the weight of a Jumo-004B. This weight increase may be offsetted by fewer fuel capacity as the specific fuel consumption of the HWK is horrific in comparison to the HeS30.

dates for HeS30:

date of design: 1940
date of benchtests: 1942
date of service: never
ordering background: proposal for a class I-turbine (alike Jumo-004 and BMW-003), later rejected
because of avaiablity of Jumo and BMW-engines in this powerclass.....One of the few WRONG decisions the RLM did in jet propulsion.
compressor: 5 stage axial
turbine: 1 stage axial
weight (dry): 390 Kg (860 lbs) (for comparison: Jumo004: 730 Kg; BMW 003: 540 Kg)
Note that the construction of this engine was simplier than the Jumo but more difficult than the BMW.
compression ratio: 1:3
poweroutput: 860 Kp nominal (1896 lbs)
poweroutput enforced: 910 Kp benchtested (2006 lbs)
poweroutput designed: 1125 Kp (2480lbs) at 10500 rpm (for comparison: Jumo-004: 840-890Kp; BMW-003: 800Kp-927Kp enforced)
thrust to weight ratio: 2.205-2.333

This engine was unexceeded in the following aspects until the early 50´s:
-lowest frontal area
-lowest specific fuel consumption
-highest thrust- weight ratio



and now You have a nightmare fighter and a dream to fly...
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The DB603n had 800 to 1000 more power then the other DB603's
He 280 with He 30 and 3 MG 213 20mm
Horton HO 229 with HeS011c
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