 | Which fighters did pilots feel safest in for crash landing?| Aviation Discuss Which fighters did pilots feel safest in for crash landing? in the World War II - Aviation forums; yes but even if the undercarriage had taken a few hits, the undercarriage of the -109 was weak, you cannt ... |
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05-21-2005, 04:53 AM
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#61 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | yes but even if the undercarriage had taken a few hits, the undercarriage of the -109 was weak, you cannt claim it wasn't.......
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05-21-2005, 08:11 AM
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#62 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | This 109E (1190) was downed on 30th sept 1940 and the damage is original and not doctored
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05-21-2005, 08:17 AM
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#63 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | I like the way they've displayed it.  | |
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05-21-2005, 08:37 AM
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Country: | Apparently it crashed in East Dean Sussex. The pilot was Host Parez recieved several wounds. The plane was toured all over the world raising funds for the war effort then it ended up in a farmers barn until 1960.
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05-21-2005, 09:29 AM
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05-21-2005, 12:15 PM
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Country: | I've heard the canopy is wrong. I think it's something like an E-5 canopy on an E-4 plane. I know that the RAF mixed and matched bits and pieces from 109s that ditched in Britain.
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05-21-2005, 12:21 PM
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#67 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | If the canopy is wrong, I dont think too many people will notice.
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05-21-2005, 12:29 PM
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Country: | There is actually a picture of that exact same aircraft when it first crash landed. I'm in the process of finding it.
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05-21-2005, 01:18 PM
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Now compare this photo taken right after it was shot down to the one I took of it in July of 2004. If you look carefully at the a/c canopy you will see that they are DIFFERENT. The one in the original photograph had CURVED and rounded frame while this one is VERY MUCH straight. Thus, though they restored it, they used a different model canopy than what was originally on the aircraft!
Someone did not pay attention to what they were doing and instead of manufacturing a correct canopy grabbed one off a different model.
Also note that other items are different: the nose spinner is now missing off of the a/c as displayed at Duxford's Imperial War Museum; there is a missing badge right behind the spinner on the cowl, and there is a black streak above the wing root in color (though some may argue it was oil exhaust but the pattern is not one of oil streaks and it blends in perfectly with the rest of the aircraft).
| http://www.taphilo.com/jg26/index.shtml
That plane is Bf-109E-3 from JG26, shot down over Sussex during the Battle of Britain.
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05-21-2005, 04:18 PM
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Country: | I agree D just goes to show even the IWM has its moments defiantly a different canopy front.
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05-22-2005, 02:30 PM
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#71 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Great pics but what did they do with the propellor spinner?
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05-22-2005, 02:46 PM
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Country: | Don't know Adler souvenir hunt do you reckon? or perhaps its been used for and airworth 109E
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05-22-2005, 03:27 PM
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#73 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Could be, but I am not sure of any that are airworthy. I know of some that are being restored right now but the only actual WW2 era original Me-109 I knew about was a Me-109G, which crashed and is being repaired right now.
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05-22-2005, 03:34 PM
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Country: | I think one is being rebuilt but not in the UK.
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05-22-2005, 03:41 PM
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#75 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | Marseille flew a E model while staioned briefly on the Ost Front. The particualr model has been revamped and is still flwon today. What a fantastic sound too it has as it flew several thousand feet oer our ehads back in the month of October 2002 at the Chino,CA airport. What was special about this is it was the frst time they brought out the good looking Me 262 Schwalbe recon version for show and tell. Friend and pilot Hans Busch was there to tell of his expereicnes flying the jet on jabo and anti-bomber missions
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