 | Which fighters were "thick skinned?"| Aviation Discuss Which fighters were "thick skinned?" in the World War II - Aviation forums; Would love to - thanks... |
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04-21-2005, 12:30 PM
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#91 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | Would love to - thanks 
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04-21-2005, 12:35 PM
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#92 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | No prob! We have quite a collection of airplanes and artifacts. You can't miss us. From the airfield, we are near the tower. Look for a C-46, C-131 and/or a Martin 404 and you will find us. There is usually a couple of SNJs and a Broussard on the ramp as well. Right now we have a Nanchang CJ out there that came in on an IFE. He had a total engine failure and had to make a deadstick landing.  He was right in from of our C-46 that was also coming in with an IFE. It was an exciting day! Fortunately, everyone got down okay. The C-46 sheared off one of it's main bolts for the tailwheel. Very scary.
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04-21-2005, 12:56 PM
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#93 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | WOW- Sounds like an exciting day, hopefully no one will make the news!
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04-21-2005, 01:01 PM
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#94 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Yes, all ended well, fortunately. We have very resourceful folks down at the CAF that were able to jury-rig a solution to keep the tail-wheel down and locked for them to get in okay. They have been working on it and it will be good as new in a short time.
When the bolt sheared, there was a loud bang and the whole airplane shuddered. The pilot said that when it happened he thought "OH ****!". He reads alot of accident reports in his regular job and he said that is one of the common things, normal takeoff and departure followed by a loud bang. That was the first thing that crossed his mind. Pucker factor of 9 on that one!
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04-21-2005, 01:04 PM
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#95 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I could imagine! Hey do you have a fellow there that works with the C-46 who talks about a friend or relative who has a T-33?
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04-21-2005, 01:13 PM
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#96 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Hmmm... I know most of the guys that work on the C-46 and have heard mention of a T-33, but I don't remember who mentioned the T-33. We had one out at Camarillo a few months back giving rides. Do you know the name of the C-46 crewmember?
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04-21-2005, 01:20 PM
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#97 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | You know I don't. I was hooked up with a guy named Charlie Wallisch who had a T-33 based out of Mojave Airport. Charlie's dad and this "friend" would come out and help us during annual inspection time. He always talked about you guys and the C-46. Can't remember his name.
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04-21-2005, 02:41 PM
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#98 | | | I don't suppose any of you guys could help me to aquire an appropriate wing or fuselage section for some real damage tests?
It does not need to be from real WWII aircraft, just have appropriate internal structure and be covered in duraluminum sheet. Obviously to keep the price down I'm looking for something off a wreck.
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04-21-2005, 02:45 PM
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#99 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | RG - How close are to to Ceaderville? There's an aircraft salvage yard there
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04-21-2005, 03:11 PM
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#100 | | | Right now I'm in Oklahoma. May be re-locating to the Bakersfield area or to the Casper Wyoming area or to the Colorado area soon.
But, if I can locate something that sounds appropriate, I can arrainge a road trip. I would need to transport the section to Ohio in any case - that's where the guy with the .50's and 20mm's who can shoot it up is.
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04-21-2005, 03:18 PM
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#101 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Try: C & C Alloys Corporation 209 East Jefferson Street, Purcell OK. I have no Idea where they are at. If you get to bakersfield there are numerous salvage companies in southern CA. If you get to Colorado, I 'll defiently hook you up!
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04-21-2005, 04:08 PM
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#102 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Chino also has a salvage yard.
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04-21-2005, 04:11 PM
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#103 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Chino, and don't forget the one at long Beach Airport. You also got Aviaiotn Warehouse out at El Mirage dry lake.
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05-05-2005, 01:02 PM
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#104 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | OK folks here we go again! I got up close to an F4F, F6F, F8F, F4U, SBD and a P-51. I kept the photos large so bear with me. As far as wing skins are concerned, this is what I found...
The Zero, F4F and SBD carried the same thickness, although you could see the Zero had much less internal structure. lots of rivets on the SBD and F4F. The P-51, F4U and F8F were really thick skinned, the F4U had the thickest at the wing hinge (obviously) and it seemed the whole bottom wing structure was very thick. The best way to view this was at the trailing edge at the aileron.
If you walked on any of these, you're not going to damage anything unless you walk on the fabric control surfaces. The skin on the outside engine bay of the mustang was a bit thinner than the wings which would make be uncomfortable considering all the coolant and oil lines seen in the engine bay. Out of all of these if I had to be shot at in an airplane, I'd take the F4U. For the most part, you're not damaging the surfaces of these wings if you jump on them (with the exception on the Zero) although I'd think if you did that to these particular aircraft the owners would remove genitalia parts through your nose! 
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05-05-2005, 04:09 PM
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#105 | | | Wow those photos are huge.
Also, it's very hard to judge thickness on folded or mudded over plate joinings.
And, I'm skeptical about the Zero, it is too likely it was rebuilt post-war using thicker than original sheeting.
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