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Old 05-29-2007, 04:35 PM   #1
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Question Fighting your own.......

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Theres nothing unusual about modern forces fighting equipment that came from home.
It seems less the case in the past though.
I know the Finnish Air Force had the Blenhiem bomber, their only modern aircraft I gather, and they would soon join Germany against Russia.
Thats about as close as I can get to an example, but were there other cases?
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:19 PM   #2
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FAF had also Hurricanes, no record of Hurricane vs. Hurricane fights though... Finns also bought Soviet SB-2 bombers from Germany in addition to their own that were captured in 1939-1940. Germans used the same type as glider tugs, about combat against Soviets I don't know. There were also plans to start Finnish Mosquito production and two captured planes were ordered from Germany for reference. War ended before anything concrete was accomplished.



Israelis used captured Egyptian T-54/55 tanks under the name Tiran4/5 against their former owners in the Yom Kippur war of 1973. All of these tanks were captured in the 1967 Six Days War and modified in Israel.
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:33 PM   #3
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Yugolslavia flew Bf 109s against the Germans at the beginning of the invasion in April 1941. As did Iraq during the brief scirmish there during the war. In May 1944, Switzerland bought 12 Bf 109G-6s as part of deal for them to destroy a Bf 109G-4 that they captured and the Luftwaffe wanted.
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Didn't the Germans love using captured Jeeps, and found them much preferable to their own Kubelwagons? That's the closest example I can think of
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:22 PM   #5
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Germans made extensive use of captured equipment. An example:

21st Panzer division when reformed in July 1943 had a tank regiment (100th Panzer Regiment) that was made up from various independant companies that were equipped with French Hotchkiss and Somua tanks. On May 20, 1944 the unit was re-equipped with PzKpfw IVs in place of the French tanks.

There were some Luftwaffe units that used captured aircraft, most obvious being KG 200 and I believe LG 1 in the beginning.

On the Allies side, 325the FG in North Africa had both a Bf 109 and Fw 190 although I don't think they were used operationally.
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Didn't the Germans love using captured Jeeps, and found them much preferable to their own Kubelwagons? That's the closest example I can think of
When the German military took delivery of the first vehicles, they immediately put them to the test on- and off-road in snow and ice to test their capability at handling European winters; several four-wheel-drive vehicles were used as reference points. The two-wheel drive Kübelwagen surprised even those who had been a part of its development, as it handily out-performed the other vehicles in nearly every test. Most notably - thanks to its smooth, flat underbody—the Kübel would propel itself much like a motorised sled when its wheels were sinking into sand, snow or mud, allowing it to follow tracked vehicles with remarkable tenacity.

In November of 1943, the American military conducted a series of tests as well on several Type 82's they had captured in North Africa; they concluded that the vehicle was simpler, easier to manufacture and maintain, faster, and more comfortable for four passengers than the American Jeeps.

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The Spanish Civil war must have had examples of same type aircraft fighting each other.
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What about the Dewonitine D.520? That was used by both sides, although I don't know if they ever flew against eachother
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