 | The Fork-Tailed Devil..History of the P-38| Aviation Discuss The Fork-Tailed Devil..History of the P-38 in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
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07-25-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet P-38 know one redicules your for knowledge that you know, you just dont like being corrected.
Besides as Even put it, you need to source stuff when you take info directly from other peoples works. Otherwise it is called plagerism which guess what can get you sued and even jail time in the United States. You do it at school and you can be suspended or expelled. In College you will be thrown out of school and barred. Most Universities will not even look at you after that. And since it is a federal offense, there is a chance the military will not even look at you anymore, atleast to be an officer.
It would be something like this: | I understand plagerism. I know not to do it, and I even did a wriiten(typed) report on WWII Tanks and included all of the copyright information I recieved from the books I got them from. Evan is right I should have included it.
You may not think I should be this but I want to become an Officer in the National Guard when im older. So I understand the huge price in Plagerism now.
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Originally Posted by evangilder | Just had a look at that site, funniest part-
"May 4-8 The Battle of the Coral Sea ensues, it is the first of six major battles between opposing aircraft carriers. The Japanese claim victory based on 'points' but the battle is nonetheless an operational and strategic defeat for them. The goal was to capture Port Moseby on New Zealand, offering up an Japanese airbase within striking distance of Australia." 
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet And if I recall Pile was a reporter.
As stated it was just a myth. | Pile was a top notch correspondant, very respected and would not make something like that up. I don't know if its a myth or not, it really could be either. If it was true it was probably a local thing though.
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Originally Posted by wmaxt Pile was a top notch correspondant, very respected and would not make something like that up. I don't know if its a myth or not, it really could be either. If it was true it was probably a local thing though.
wmaxt | Thats what I believe happened.
In my opinion, from evidence, I believe the P-38 was called "The Forked-Tailed Devil" from German ground troops who were attacked by the P-38s doing bombing runs over ammo depots, fuel depots, convoys, etc.
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Originally Posted by P38 Pilot I understand plagerism. I know not to do it, and I even did a wriiten(typed) report on WWII Tanks and included all of the copyright information I recieved from the books I got them from. Evan is right I should have included it.
You may not think I should be this but I want to become an Officer in the National Guard when im older. So I understand the huge price in Plagerism now. | I never said I dont want you to join the military. I just think you dont understand as much as you think you do.
Besides P38 this thread needs to get back on topic....
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07-26-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wmaxt Pile was a top notch correspondant, very respected and would not make something like that up. I don't know if its a myth or not, it really could be either. If it was true it was probably a local thing though.
wmaxt | Agreed. As I said before it was probably German ground troops if anything that called them that but the Luftwaffe never did.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet I never said I dont want you to join the military. I just think you dont understand as much as you think you do.
Besides P38 this thread needs to get back on topic.... | Right. I guess we can all agree that the P-38 was called The Forked Tailed Devil from the ground troops but not the Luftwaffe.
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07-27-2006, 12:16 PM
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Country: | I can agree that if anyone did, it was the ground troops. It very well could have been just one German POW who had a bad day with a P-38 and called it that himself.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet I can agree that if anyone did, it was the ground troops. | Having an aircraft flying at low altitude firing 4 .50 cal and a Hispano 20mm at the same time dropping two 500 lb bombs would definitely make me scream the Devil! So we can all make the final judgment that the Wehrmacht called the P-38 "The Forked Tailed Devil" but not the Luftwaffe.
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07-29-2006, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by P38 Pilot So we can all make the final judgment that the Wehrmacht called the P-38 "The Forked Tailed Devil" but not the Luftwaffe. | No I will not make that judgement. You can, but I will not. Because frankly I think it was one person that may have said it. Not the whole Wehrmacht. One POW who had a bad day is not the whole Wehrmacht. There are also no German accounts of any "Group" calling it that.
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| Well what ever the source, it sure made for a fine legend, didnt it.
Did the allied airmen ever call the -190 the "Butcher Bird"?
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Originally Posted by syscom3 Well what ever the source, it sure made for a fine legend, didnt it. | Yes it is an interesting story. Quote: |
Originally Posted by syscom3 Did the allied airmen ever call the -190 the "Butcher Bird"? | Nope they never did. It got that name from the Germans not the allies.
The actual name given by the Germans for the Fw-190 was the "Wuerger" which is a bird of prey or litterally "Butcher Bird".
So sorry syscom, no comparison there... 
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