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07-29-2006, 04:49 PM
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| I was hoping for a "Fork Tailed Devil vs Butcher Bird" story
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07-29-2006, 04:52 PM
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#47 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Wuerger actually litterally means Shrike and from there it became butcher bird.
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07-31-2006, 04:35 AM
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there are many names around for many different thing, many of which were used by small groups of people but after the war were blown out of all proportion and some that went the other way it depends on what the people that lead us want us to think, and as with the butcher bird issue sometimes it's just down to translation for example i believe the British actually called the Tiger II the Royal Tiger, but the name King Tiger seems to be the one that stuck........
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07-31-2006, 04:40 AM
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Country: | King Tiger is it's proper title, that's probably why it stuck. But it has many names.
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07-31-2006, 04:46 AM
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#52 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yes Lanc sometimes it comes down to translation. I can actually see that with the Butcher Bird because Wuerger means Shrike, Bird of Prey aka Butcher Bird.
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11-03-2007, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D  King Tiger is it's proper title, that's probably why it stuck. But it has many names. |
No it's not!
It's a bad translation of the German name Königstiger (Panthera tigris tigris) wich actually translates to Bengal Tiger in English! | |
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11-03-2007, 06:08 PM
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11-03-2007, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
Besides P38 this thread needs to get back on topic....
| Thats right! The P-38 was the best da*n can opener ever made, and anyone who disagrees can go....
what plane?
Oh...nevermind... 
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11-04-2007, 01:33 PM
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#56 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Ome_Joop No it's not!
It's a bad translation of the German name Königstiger (Panthera tigris tigris) wich actually translates to Bengal Tiger in English! | No actually Königstiger actually does translate to King Tiger or Royal Tiger.
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11-04-2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cdat88 Thats right! The P-38 was the best da*n can opener ever made, and anyone who disagrees can go....
what plane?
Oh...nevermind... | 
I still have a P38 Can Opener! I love the damn thing. I never could carry mine on my dog tags though. I was allways afraid if I fell or had to dive it would puntcure me!
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11-04-2007, 02:09 PM
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11-04-2007, 02:17 PM
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>No actually Königstiger actually does translate to King Tiger or Royal Tiger.
Linguistically correct, however: biologically, "Königstiger" describes Panthera tigris tigris, which is called "Bengal Tiger" or (and here the languanges converge :-) "Royal Bengal Tiger" in English. Königstiger - Wikipedia Bengal Tiger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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11-04-2007, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
I still have a P38 Can Opener! I love the damn thing. I never could carry mine on my dog tags though. I was allways afraid if I fell or had to dive it would puntcure me! | I thought I was the only one that worried about that. I felt like in the movie Patton, worrying about getting shot in the nose.
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