 | The Fork-Tailed Devil..History of the P-38| Aviation Discuss The Fork-Tailed Devil..History of the P-38 in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by HoHun
Hi Adler,
>No actually Königstiger actually does translate to King Tiger or Royal Tiger.
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11-04-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HoHun  Hi Adler,
>No actually Königstiger actually does translate to King Tiger or Royal Tiger.
Linguistically correct, however: biologically, "Königstiger" describes Panthera tigris tigris, which is called "Bengal Tiger" or (and here the languanges converge  "Royal Bengal Tiger" in English. Königstiger - Wikipedia Bengal Tiger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Henning (HoHun) | That is fine but it is not a bad translation. Königs literally translates to King or Royal. Therefore the literal translation is King Tiger.
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11-04-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cdat88 I thought I was the only one that worried about that. I felt like in the movie Patton, worrying about getting shot in the nose.
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Originally Posted by P38 Pilot And who's Martin Cadin? | He also wrote the book "Iron Annie" about his personal JU-52, which he
and his wife ,Babe or Baby, or something like that, use to fly around the
country. I met him years ago in Boston. He looks just like a "Biker". A
big bald headed guy with a very big moustache. Joe is correct, he is full of
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>That is fine but it is not a bad translation.
Oh, I never meant to suggest that!
>Königs literally translates to King or Royal. Therefore the literal translation is King Tiger.
"Royal" would be the adjective "königlich", but "Königs..." could also be "king's" or "kings'". I'd say that "Königstiger" in German really implies that it is the "tiger of the king(s)", not a "tiger king".
I'm not sure how this kind of consideration applies to the English term "king tiger" ... tiger of the kings or king of the tigers? (Or tiger and king both, coincidentally?)
Strange how complicated this turns out now that we have a closer look at it ...
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>A big bald headed guy with a very big moustache. Joe is correct, he is full of BS.
I'm afraid Caidin passed away some ten years ago. It seems he was well liked in the Warbirds scene for his story-telling talents ... one "obit" I read mentioned that during his lifetime, it was common wisdom that "Marty always tells it like it is, even if it ain't."
Great you had the good luck to meet him in person - I bought his Me 109 book very early on in the "aviation enthusiast" career, reading it over and over through the years, and while it is dated now, it compares favourably to many other contemporary books in the quality of research. Of course, Caidin also praised the Me 108 in his 109 book - he was a great fan of the former type
>his personal JU-52, which he and his wife ,Babe or Baby, or something like that, use to fly around the country.
He sold this Ju 52 a long time ago, and it was bought and restored to airliner condition by the Lufthansa who operates it for nostalgia flights (carrying very well-paying passengers It's a regular guest on airhows in Germany and based in Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel.
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>I hope you're aware that you're speaking to a man who is half German, half American and can speak both German and English fluently.
Hm, what are you trying to tell me? My English certainly isn't as fluent as my German, and so I occassionally misunderstand things that might be obvious to a native speaker ...
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11-04-2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HoHun Hi Adler,
>That is fine but it is not a bad translation.
Oh, I never meant to suggest that!
>Königs literally translates to King or Royal. Therefore the literal translation is King Tiger.
"Royal" would be the adjective "königlich", but "Königs..." could also be "king's" or "kings'". I'd say that "Königstiger" in German really implies that it is the "tiger of the king(s)", not a "tiger king".
I'm not sure how this kind of consideration applies to the English term "king tiger" ... tiger of the kings or king of the tigers? (Or tiger and king both, coincidentally?)
Strange how complicated this turns out now that we have a closer look at it ...
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Henning (HoHun) | Agreed.
Unfortunatly that is how complicated the German language is.
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