Gold-Clash

Soren · 05-25-2005, 11:23 AM

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However to say that he is a liar and or stupid is very rash of you. It implies that you know better than a highly experienced test and combat pilot.

Read my comment below.

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You also cannot deny that he is an expert in the field recognised by other professionals and that also seems to hurt you.

Yes, he's recognized as a "Liar" by other professionals.

And no he's definitely NOT an expert, he's an "Expert-liar" thats what he is.

I think you'll agree that you can't call a guy who presents obviously wrong data an "expert", now can you ?

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So I repeat what I said. Feel free to disagree that is what these forums are about, but you are not in a position to get personal.

Glider Brown's comments are so false and stupid, that he is rightfully presented as a liar in many books and articles ! So im not getting personal at all, im just handing out the facts here, and fact is Brown was either a liar or just plain stupid.

As a side note: Im not barking at you Glider, but at Brown and his sickening lies, thats all. So please don't feel offended in any way by the above.

Erich · 05-25-2005, 11:33 AM

Soren in Luftrwaffe cirlces of searious research Osprey titles are taboo and considered well below average. incomplete and wrong operational text, mis captioned pics still to this day. Copied scans of copyrighted photos, and on it goes. They are cheap booklets nothing more and that is why they are so popular. muach has been used from the old bogus William Greens Third Reich ww 2 a/c.

They are good for starting the fire in the fireplace. Hopefully soon they will wise up. Their campaign titles are rehash of old news that is incorrect and just recopied works from other known authors.

Soren · 05-25-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Erich

Soren in Luftrwaffe cirlces of searious research Osprey titles are taboo and considered well below average. incomplete and wrong operational text, mis captioned pics still to this day. Copied scans of copyrighted photos, and on it goes. They are cheap booklets nothing more and that is why they are so popular. muach has been used from the old bogus William Greens Third Reich ww 2 a/c.

They are good for starting the fire in the fireplace. Hopefully soon they will wise up. Their campaign titles are rehash of old news that is incorrect and just recopied works from other known authors.

As I said Im mostly going for the Performance stats in those books, so it doesnt bother me that much. Also I have so many other books about the 190 and 109, that it really doesnt matter much.

As for the Historic part, I really havent found any clear mistakes there yet, maby you could point some out to me ?

Looking forward to Crandalls release you mentioned though.

Btw are you a writer yourself Erich ? (I think you missed it last time I asked

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(Small Edit: accidently wrote Grandalls instead of Crandalls

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Erich · 05-25-2005, 12:08 PM

i think you need to read some of my earlier postings from last year.

I co-author a web-site which is on my profile stats. Still running and very historical and to the point.

Have helped resersach two books already and working on a third from Germany covering the German night ground attack.

My own book co-authored on the "Moskito-jagd over Germany" where we have special emphasis on the almost unknown 10./NJG 11 aka Kommando Welter. 750 pages and we are reducing it, maybe 2 volumes.

I am also writing a book on my interviews with German night fighter crews piloting Ju 88G-6's during late 44 till wars end. "In the Shadow of the Moon"

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-26-2005, 04:47 AM

I happen to agree about Eric Brown. He was very biased and from what I can tell he did not report on how things really were.

Soren · 05-26-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Erich

i think you need to read some of my earlier postings from last year.

Maby, but sadly I wasnt around at that time.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-26-2005, 12:19 PM

You can still go back and read them.

Soren · 05-26-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

You can still go back and read them.

Where ?

superunknown · 05-26-2005, 08:46 PM

While your on the subject of books, have any of you ever read any of the Squadron/Signal publications?

I think the P-51 would just win, but then again I am biased. I do enjoy "sawing" the wings off 109's in my Mustang whilst playing Sturmovik, both on & offline. But like that is anything to go by, it's only a game......but still fun

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-27-2005, 05:04 AM

I have a couple of them. I like them for the profiles.

Erich · 05-27-2005, 10:41 AM

there good for the pic content which has been shown elsewhere in other books. another booklet cheap for the buck. Text is so so unless you get one of the infrequent operational hsitories. Squadron likes to rely on the useage of Variants but then they are incorret at times especially on the photo captions of a particualr a/c and it's sub-catergories.

Erich · 05-27-2005, 10:42 AM

too fast on the draw !

Soren look back in the old threads in avaition and you will find some discussion, some of it heated here and there for old topics on the Me 262/Arado 234, Fw 190, Bf 109, etc..............good stuff

Soren · 05-27-2005, 10:46 AM

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too fast on the draw !

Soren look back in the old threads in avaition and you will find some discussion, some of it heated here and there for old topics on the Me 262/Arado 234, Fw 190, Bf 109, etc..............good stuff

Thanks Erich, I will

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 05-31-2005, 03:25 PM

Yeah I can think of some good heated ones back then. Sometimes they got kind of out of hand though.