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08-26-2005, 01:42 PM
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Country: | I think Spain did use He-100's. Another country definately purchased some.
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08-26-2005, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese I think Spain did use He-100's. Another country definately purchased some. | Spain as well as Romania used He 112s, not He 100s. A Spanish He 112 ( 5*68 ) even shot down (forced landing due to damage) a P-38F of the 14th FG over Spanish Morocco.  |
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08-29-2005, 05:30 AM
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| I'm pretty sure the reasons the 109 was chosen was because:
1) it was more easily mass produced
2) Messerschmitt won an air race gaining him favor with Hitler.
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08-30-2005, 04:55 PM
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Country: | Messerschmitt had one the favor of the RLM and Heinkel had not that is major piece in this argument. Heinkel was favored for bombers and sea planes.
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08-30-2005, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunatic I'm pretty sure the reasons the 109 was chosen was because:
1) it was more easily mass produced
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Lunatic | The he-100 was designed for very simplified production it was more simple and had lees parts than bf-109, because Heinkel learned the lesson with the He-112 in a hard way. Quote: |
2) Messerschmitt won an air race gaining him favor with Hitler
| I think the main reason of the lack of sucess in the He-100 was that it use tha same engine that BF-109, Bf-110.
The RLM ask Walther Gunther if this plane could be modified to accept the Jumo 211 engine, but the dimentions and performances of both engines were so diferent that Gunther refused to do so, sadly to the 100, the Jumo 213 was not available in 1940. 
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08-31-2005, 12:50 PM
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| Cool profile. What a neat plane she is!
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09-01-2005, 10:52 AM
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Country: | The He-100 was lighter and easier to build than the Bf-109. It broke several world speed records, achieving a speed of 435mph, at max take off it could still achieve speeds in the 400 range. It was made of only 969 parts. It used a evaporative cooling system. It also had a range of up to 1000km compared to the 109's much lower range. All of this in 1939/1940. Overall I think the 100 could have been a much better aircraft than the 109 and it was a harsh mistake on the RLM not to produce this aircraft.
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09-01-2005, 10:54 AM
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Country: | I definately agree with that. The BoB might have been a different story with He-100's instead of 109's.
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09-01-2005, 11:07 AM
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Country: | The 109 was supposadly more maneuverable than the He-100. Not sure of that though.
And I still dont think it would have changed the outcome the German Higher Command would have made the same mistakes either way.
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09-01-2005, 11:12 AM
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09-01-2005, 11:18 AM
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09-01-2005, 12:25 PM
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| The He-100 is only good until it gets shot at. 1 hole in that evaporative cooling system and it is screwed in a very short time.
CC. the bob would definitely have been different with the He-100. The RAF could simply use AA guns instead of bothering with fighters. With the He-100 flying close escort and shrapnel flying through the air, the -100 would be screwed due to the reasons mentioned above. |
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09-01-2005, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by red admiral The He-100 is only good until it gets shot at. 1 hole in that evaporative cooling system and it is screwed in a very short time.
CC. the bob would definitely have been different with the He-100. The RAF could simply use AA guns instead of bothering with fighters. With the He-100 flying close escort and shrapnel flying through the air, the -100 would be screwed due to the reasons mentioned above. | The He-100 D-1 wich was teorically the version to be mass produced, discarded the evaporative cooling system , and used instead a more conventional radiator retractable below the cockpit. 
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09-02-2005, 06:35 AM
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