he 162 salamander

[delcyros]

Not for me, gents.
I wouldn´t like the worse forcedynamics of a forward swept wing, remember the Ju-287, worse aeroelastics if I recall correctly.
The A6 subtype looks great and the He-162 C (resp. -D there are problems with the designations: if HeS011 driven is -B then forward swept is -C and positive sweep is -D, otherwise it is called -C) with swept back wings would look sexy, too...

[Smokey]

The swept wing version would be nice since experience from the Me 262 could be used

[Henk]

I must say the normal He-162 looks better for me, but the forward swept wing He-162 does have its good things when it comes to looks.

Henk

[Twitch]

The reason for the proposed forward sweep was to raise the low critical Mach number. The Russians seemed to be on top of all with all the work they did with the Ju 287 and offsprings over the years?!

Ef-140

[delcyros]

The forward swept wing had another advantage: while swept back wings loose efficiancy at low speeds (especially at stall speeds), the forwards swept wing will remain controllability even at very high angle´s of attack. The lift at low speed is better, too. The Ju-287 test reports confirmed this but for some worrisome aeroelastic problems. The lates Junkers designs (Ju-EF132) under german controll showed against the swept back wing layout.

[Erich]

this mention actually goes with the 262 variants but the Welter group was going to strip a 262 and put forward cants on that puppy. they had already experimented with the AR 234 and their was a good feeling about it due to the long narrow streamlined shape but initially the impression was total blindness from city fires because of literally too much glas in the pilots face. the changes were subtle and Arado never did put in a firm bid with the Messerch. 262 for the nf, even after refocusing the attention of where to put the cockpit armor and guns, ammo packs besides the inclusion of radar though the internal AI dish seemed to work in excellent form in later experiments.

sorry if this is a tad bit tweed

[Twitch]

Check out the X-29 reference to the Ju- 287 http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...craft/x-29.htm I saw this fly around Edwards during tests.

[Glider]

If I remember my aerodynamics lessons another advantage of forward swept wings was a reduction in Induced drag. It was a long time ago now and could well be wrong on that.

[delcyros]

Indeed this is the case. Since the airfoil is getting thinner at the wingtips and airflow is more directed inwardly the wingtip drag is reduced, particularly compared to swept forward wings. Good memory, Glider.