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Hi-alt.german bomber used in N.Africa
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Hi-alt.german bomber used in N.Africa
A german bomber,used to bomb from an (at 1st)unreachable altitude.Then the british modified a (?)Spitfire,which went up and shot it down.This type of hi-altitude plane was not seen again.Anyone know anything about this plane?Have no idea what it was.TIA
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Senior Member
I assume you're talking about the Junkers Ju86R or P.
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Der Crew Chief
That is all I can think of but it was used after N. Afrika also.
fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
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Senior Member
Yes, it was the Ju-86. The Spitfire VI was developed to counter this threat but it wasn't from actions over North Africa. Britain first met the Ju-86 over Scotland - the Spitfire VI was developed from the Spitfire V to counter it.
By the time the Ju-86 started seeing action over North Africa, the Spitfire VII was operational and able to counter it.
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004
To those in that club.
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Der Crew Chief
Yeah but the Ju-86 was seen again as it was used in every theatre of the War in Europe for a while.
fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
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thanx to everyone for the quick replies!
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Senior Member
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Senior Member
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."
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Probably P though because the R was pretty much just a prototype.
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Senior Member
As far as I know the R was put into service.....
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Hmmm, I dunno, and I cant be arsed to find out 
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Senior Member
yes as far i know she saw service too........
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."
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Senior Member
I said it was P, because of article in some military aviation magazine that i've read a bit of time ago, which told, that only Ju-86P were used over Africa
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Der Crew Chief
Originally Posted by
JCS
As far as I know the R was put into service.....
Yes the R was put into service in limited numbers.
Some 40 old bombers were converted to Ju 86P-1 high altitude bombers and Ju 86P-2 photo reconnaissance aircraft. Those operated successfully for some years over Britain, the Soviet Union and North Africa. In August 1942 a modified Spitfire V shot one down over Egypt, and when two more were lost, Ju 86Ps were withdrawn from service 1943.
The Luftwaffe tried to develop the Ju 86R with even larger wings and prototype engines, that could have flown even higher, at 16,000 m, but production was limited to some prototypes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_86
fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
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Senior Member
damn right 
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."
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