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[luftwaffemesserschmitt]

not challenging correckting sir lesofprimes

[Matt308]

I hope so! Challenges keep everyone on their toes. As long as no one takes it personally.

[red admiral]

Originally Posted by DIOGENIS

the MB 157 doesn't look so slim /aerodynamic, fitted with a radial engine in the early 40's, seems quite difficult to reach 700+ km.Anyone knows what powerplant it carried?

There is some considerable doubt surrounding that 710km/h figure. Elsewhere, we calculated a speed of 620km/h with the new 1700hp engine, which is much more likely than 710km/h.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by luftwaffemesserschmitt

hello

its a commen mistake by aircraft fans but the me 262 a-1b was NOT the wane fitted with r4m rockets. The only correckt designation is me 262 a-1/r7
(rustarze 7) me 262 a-1a the a or b at the and stand for the engines and not the armarment. For example a is junkers jumo 004 and b is bmw 003 engines

best regards jan
(sorry for my bad englisch but i am come from holland jou now)

That is not 100% true.

Me-262A-1a had Jumo 004 engines
Me-262A-1b also had Jumo 004 engines.
All Me-262A-2 whether they were were A-2a or A-2b had Jumo 004 engines.

The only 262 that did not have Jumo 004 engines was the Me-262C-2b.

Therefore the a or b does not designate which engine was used.

The version that used the R4M was the Me-262A-1b.

[Matt308]

..and that is why I love this forum. Well done.

[twoeagles]

Wow - that's the sort of no nonsense solid information I was hoping to find
here. But help me - I am still trying to build a library that is more than my
old NATOPS, I have some Eric Mombeek vols. on Luftwaffe, where do you find
this information? What books do I need to search out and gradually add?

[luftwaffemesserschmitt]

i can have it wrong erich so yes correckt me but i am a member of the stormbirds forum (STORMBIRDS.COM - Luftwaffe Resources) and i am sure that they are just like me real me 262 experts and they say the me 262 a-1b is for the one with BMW 003 engines its on the tread with the correct designation for the me 262 with r4m rockets ( i am sorry cant give a link the forum is currently of-line)

best regards jan

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I could be wrong as well, but if the info that I have posted above is wrong then just about all of the books I have read are wrong.

[luftwaffemesserschmitt]

Untitled Document

here is the proof i am right

best regards jan

[luftwaffemesserschmitt]

[quote=luftwaffemesserschmitt;197492]Untitled Document

here is the proof i am right
click at me 262 a-1b
sorry for double posting

best regards jan

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeah but there were no rustsaetze only umsaetze.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Excuse me umbausaetze. But I will concede, I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. Learn something new everyday.

[luftwaffemesserschmitt]

oke i am happy when i could learn somwane some news

[obersturm]

My first post. Hello everyone.

Agreed with Luftwaffemesserschimitt, the small letter designation indicates engine type. "a" is for Jumo004 and "b" is for BMW 003. Only four Me 262 A-1b ever built. Wrk nr. 130184 and 170078 were engine test beds. Rutzsatze designations for R4M is "R7" (example Me 262 A-1a/R7).

[net_sailor]

Hi!

Can anyone confirm this Me 262 modification?

R1- fuel tank (Is it a internal auxiliary tank No.4 in fuselage? - I'm not sure)
R2 - JATO
R3 - Walter rocket engine for C version
R4 - radar for B version
R5 - ?
R6 - ETC503 racks and TSA 2D sight (?)
R7 - R4M
R8 - 2x R100BS rockets
R9 - 4x Rurhstahl X4 guided rockets