Hurricanes in the CBI - Looking for Information - Aircraft of World War II

wdolson · 01-24-2007, 07:51 PM

I'm looking for information on the versions and arrival dates for the different models of Hurricanes used against Japan.

I know the first Hurricanes arrived just before the fall of Singapore and were thrown into that couldron. The ones that survived were used in the defense of Sumatra. The rest served in Burma and India.

Different sources give the mark of the first Hurricane differently. I have seen sources quote Mk Is, Mk IIas, and Mk IIbs. I believe they were actually IIBs with four guns removed to make them more manueverable. I've read an account in an Osprey book about the first Mk IIbs arriving in Rangoon (it appears part of the first shipment went to Singapore and the other part went to Rangoon). The first thing they did was strip out 4 guns to make them lighter.

This may be where all the confusion about marks comes from. Those not completely familiar with the sub-marks might conclude that a Hurricane with 8X .303s was a Mk I, or those not familiar with what was done in the field might conclude that an 8 gun Mk II would be a IIa.

It looks like the IIc was the primary work horse of the theater, but when did they arrive and in what quantities? I believe the IId and Mk IV were also used in small quantities.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

syscom3 · 01-24-2007, 08:28 PM

The book:

"A Bloody Shambles"

Has loads of information.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-26-2007, 01:42 PM

i've yet to find a good site on it but i've no doubt someone will have one, in the meantime yes the M.IIc was the workhorse of the theatre.........

wdolson · 01-26-2007, 06:39 PM

I've heard about Bloody Shambles. I would like to get the series, but even at discount on Amazon, they are $37 each. I was able to find one used copy of Volume 2 for $20, which I ordered. I don't have the money to buy the rest at this time.

Finding any information on the CBI can be tough. It seems to be the least documented theater of the war.

Bill

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-27-2007, 05:10 AM

most definately, some people aren't even aware of any fighting on the Asian mainland........

syscom3 · 01-27-2007, 11:36 AM

Thats because the most important fighting was elsewhere.

01-24-2007, 07:51 PM	#1
wdolson Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Portland, OR Posts: 5	Hurricanes in the CBI - Looking for Information I'm looking for information on the versions and arrival dates for the different models of Hurricanes used against Japan. I know the first Hurricanes arrived just before the fall of Singapore and were thrown into that couldron. The ones that survived were used in the defense of Sumatra. The rest served in Burma and India. Different sources give the mark of the first Hurricane differently. I have seen sources quote Mk Is, Mk IIas, and Mk IIbs. I believe they were actually IIBs with four guns removed to make them more manueverable. I've read an account in an Osprey book about the first Mk IIbs arriving in Rangoon (it appears part of the first shipment went to Singapore and the other part went to Rangoon). The first thing they did was strip out 4 guns to make them lighter. This may be where all the confusion about marks comes from. Those not completely familiar with the sub-marks might conclude that a Hurricane with 8X .303s was a Mk I, or those not familiar with what was done in the field might conclude that an 8 gun Mk II would be a IIa. It looks like the IIc was the primary work horse of the theater, but when did they arrive and in what quantities? I believe the IId and Mk IV were also used in small quantities. Thanks in advance, Bill

01-24-2007, 08:28 PM	#2
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,272	The book: "A Bloody Shambles" Has loads of information. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

01-26-2007, 01:42 PM	#3
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	i've yet to find a good site on it but i've no doubt someone will have one, in the meantime yes the M.IIc was the workhorse of the theatre......... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-27-2007, 05:10 AM	#5
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	most definately, some people aren't even aware of any fighting on the Asian mainland........ __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

01-27-2007, 11:36 AM	#6
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,272	Thats because the most important fighting was elsewhere. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

01-26-2007, 06:39 PM	#4
wdolson Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Portland, OR Posts: 5	I've heard about Bloody Shambles. I would like to get the series, but even at discount on Amazon, they are $37 each. I was able to find one used copy of Volume 2 for $20, which I ordered. I don't have the money to buy the rest at this time. Finding any information on the CBI can be tough. It seems to be the least documented theater of the war. Bill

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