 | Impossible Situations| Aviation Discuss Impossible Situations in the World War II - Aviation forums; I was thinking that. It looks more like he's flying in formation with him than shooting him down.... |
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06-07-2005, 12:59 PM
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Country: | I was thinking that. It looks more like he's flying in formation with him than shooting him down.
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06-07-2005, 01:40 PM
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Country: | Look at the MC.205 markings...Co-Belligerant Air Force. Why would the Allies be formation flying with the Axis?
Thanks les...I might do in the future, when im bored of this one
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06-07-2005, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese Look at the MC.205 markings...Co-Belligerant Air Force. Why would the Allies be formation flying with the Axis?  | Who knows... But what is clear, is that the MC.205 is closer to the camera, while the 109 is further away. And it doesnt look like the MC.205 is persuing the 109 at all, and there's no smoke coming from the 109 either.
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06-07-2005, 01:53 PM
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They look the same distance to me...
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06-07-2005, 02:06 PM
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| CC is right. The Mc-205 and Me-109 are on opposing sides in that picture.
Anytime you have a picture of a Hellcat and a Zero or a P-38 and a Fw-190 or a any other enemy combatants where one is behind the other, it is reasonable to assume that the follower isn't admiring his opponents rear end but instead trying to blow it off.
One could say that the picture of the P-40 and Ki-21's isn't of hostile action either because there's no smoke eminating from the Warhawk's guns or the Sally's.
I do think the Mc-205 is a little closer to the camera but do not see how that is of any consequence to the reasonable inference that the Mc-205 is pursuing the Me-109 with extreme prejudice.
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06-07-2005, 02:13 PM
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| I can agree with that DAVID.
However it doesnt look like the 109 is doing any evasive maneuver at all. The 109's elevators and ailerons seem not to be moving at all. (Its elevators are 'not' moving for sure)
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06-07-2005, 03:01 PM
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Country: | Maybe the Mc.205 has ran out of ammo...
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06-07-2005, 03:36 PM
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Country: | well why would he be carrying on the chase??
and why isn't the -109 doing any evasive manouvers?? if he was getting shot at surely he'd try and do something??
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06-07-2005, 03:37 PM
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Country: | To bother the enemy. If he's escorting a bomber formation and you're chasing him, you carry on even when you've ran out of enemy so your squadron don't get bothered by him.
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06-07-2005, 07:10 PM
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Country: | Or the picture may be just before the 205 bounced the -109, and the -109 didnt see him..........
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06-07-2005, 08:05 PM
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06-07-2005, 08:08 PM
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06-07-2005, 08:16 PM
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06-07-2005, 08:20 PM
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| Soren said, "However it doesnt look like the 109 is doing any evasive maneuver at all. "
With a snapshot of a slice in time, I think its difficult to discern. The Me-109 may not be sure exactly where or how far behind him the MC-205 is.
Who knows why the control surfaces do not indicate any hard manuevering. At that precise moment, he may be trying to pick up a little speed but unwilling to drop significant altitude to do so.
Another interesting issue is the picture itself. It would have had to have been taken from a plane alongside this spectacle. How did that come about?
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06-08-2005, 10:25 AM
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Country: | yes and the aircraft is also at the same attitude as the two other aircraft, if this was taken from annother fighter surely the pilot would have more important things to worry about than picture taking..........
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