Kawasaki KI 61 Hien "Tony" - Aircraft of World War II

Guynemer · 12-25-2006, 06:04 AM

I am curious about this Japanese fighter. Aside being the only one with an on-line engine, it showed some properties uncommon to other japanese fighters, such as outdiving his USA opponents ( or so says Greg. Boyington in his book "Baa, baa, Black Sheep). It's climbing rate or max speed were not outstanding, as far as I know.
Data on this warbird, such as notable pilots, scores, etc., will be much appreciated

syscom3 · 12-25-2006, 11:39 AM

I don't have any tech data handy for the "Tony", but I have read that at low and middle altitudes, it was competitive with US aircraft.

exec228 · 12-25-2006, 02:32 PM

Les forums du NN virtuel -> Ki.61 Hien

Guynemer · 12-26-2006, 05:26 AM

Excellent link, exec228! Thanks.

mkloby · 12-26-2006, 12:28 PM

did the tony use a license built DB 601 or one of those series of engines - or is this a myth that I believe or flat out made up? If it's the same A/C i'm thinking of, the allies mistakenly thought these were actual 109s or license built 109s initially...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-26-2006, 01:35 PM

It was powered by the Kawasaki Ha-40 which was a liscensed built DB-601 engine.

I am not sure if the Ha-140 was used in the later versions and if it was just an upgraded version of the Ha-40 or not. I dont have much info on the Ha-140 except that its production was destroyed in 1945.

Marshall_Stack · 12-27-2006, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exec228

Les forums du NN virtuel -> Ki.61 Hien

How do you translate this to English?

ninjacats · 12-27-2006, 10:41 PM

What language is that in?

Nonskimmer · 12-28-2006, 12:18 AM

French.

exec228 · 12-28-2006, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall_Stack

How do you translate this to English?

what for?

Nonskimmer · 12-28-2006, 06:57 AM

Well just off the top of my skull, taking into account everything from air density to local wind direction and the colour of the sky outside, I'd say it's because...he doesn't understand French, and would like to know just what the f*ck is going on at that forum over there.

Dunno. Been wrong before.

Gnomey · 12-28-2006, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonskimmer

Well just off the top of my skull, taking into account everything from air density to local wind direction and the colour of the sky outside, I'd say it's because...he doesn't understand French, and would like to know just what the f*ck is going on at that forum over there.

Dunno. Been wrong before.

Makes sense to me, in which case this will give you a rough translation: http://ets.freetranslation.com/

exec228 · 12-28-2006, 08:14 AM

a topic starter with french nick looks to be satisfied with an article given.

any decent avia-fan, like members of this forum, can easily google enough information about this popular airplane in almost any language, whatever he can read.

so there is no sense to translate that article imho.

as for understanding what the heck this topic about, there is enough english phrases here.

Nonskimmer · 12-28-2006, 09:39 AM

Ah.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-28-2006, 10:05 AM

12-25-2006, 06:04 AM	#1
Guynemer Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6	Kawasaki KI 61 Hien "Tony" I am curious about this Japanese fighter. Aside being the only one with an on-line engine, it showed some properties uncommon to other japanese fighters, such as outdiving his USA opponents ( or so says Greg. Boyington in his book "Baa, baa, Black Sheep). It's climbing rate or max speed were not outstanding, as far as I know. Data on this warbird, such as notable pilots, scores, etc., will be much appreciated

12-25-2006, 11:39 AM	#2
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	I don't have any tech data handy for the "Tony", but I have read that at low and middle altitudes, it was competitive with US aircraft. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

12-26-2006, 12:28 PM	#5
mkloby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 3,562	did the tony use a license built DB 601 or one of those series of engines - or is this a myth that I believe or flat out made up? If it's the same A/C i'm thinking of, the allies mistakenly thought these were actual 109s or license built 109s initially... __________________ If the Army and the Navy ever look on heaven's scenes, they will find the streets are guarded by United States Marines

12-26-2006, 01:35 PM	#6
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	It was powered by the Kawasaki Ha-40 which was a liscensed built DB-601 engine. I am not sure if the Ha-140 was used in the later versions and if it was just an upgraded version of the Ha-40 or not. I dont have much info on the Ha-140 except that its production was destroyed in 1945. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

12-28-2006, 10:05 AM	#15
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	__________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

12-25-2006, 02:32 PM	#3
exec228 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 69	Les forums du NN virtuel -> Ki.61 Hien

12-26-2006, 05:26 AM	#4
Guynemer Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6	Excellent link, exec228! Thanks.

12-27-2006, 10:41 PM	#8
ninjacats Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2	What language is that in?

12-28-2006, 12:18 AM	#9
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	French.

12-28-2006, 06:57 AM	#11
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Well just off the top of my skull, taking into account everything from air density to local wind direction and the colour of the sky outside, I'd say it's because...he doesn't understand French, and would like to know just what the f*ck is going on at that forum over there. Dunno. Been wrong before.

12-28-2006, 08:14 AM	#13
exec228 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 69	a topic starter with french nick looks to be satisfied with an article given. any decent avia-fan, like members of this forum, can easily google enough information about this popular airplane in almost any language, whatever he can read. so there is no sense to translate that article imho. as for understanding what the heck this topic about, there is enough english phrases here.

12-28-2006, 09:39 AM	#14
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Ah.

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