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Old 10-18-2007, 10:22 AM   #1
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Martin Baltimore

Gents, the Martin Baltimore to me, is one of the great unknown aircraft of WWII. It served successfully in the MTO with 5 different airforces with 1575 a/c being produced. Questions, How come it was never used as a light bomber or recce a/c over continental Europe? Was it deemed incapable of operating in that theatre, if the similar Boston could, surely the Baltimore would have been able to. Was there simply no need for another light bomber, taking into account the multitude of a/c already fulfilling that role (Boston, mossie plus all the fighter bombers etc). Why no interest from the USAAF?
Sorry lots of questions, but after reading a couple of books about RAAF squadrons that flew the type in the desert, I've had a bit of interest in this a/c which doesn't seem to get talked about much.


Some pics of 454 sqn RAAF Baltimores.
pics 1,2 and 3 from Australian War Memorial: One of the world's great museums rest unknown
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Sorry didn't know those two pics were so freakin HUGE!!!
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Sorry that I don't have an answer to your question, but the pics are cool. Any info on the one above the harbor? Curious to where that is.....

I see in your avatar that you show the Vultee Vengeance. For the most part I heard that they weren't very good aircraft but that your fellow countryman made good use of them in Burma.
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Sorry that I don't have an answer to your question, but the pics are cool. Any info on the one above the harbor? Curious to where that is.....
Somewhere over Italy, couldn't give you the exact city sorry mate.

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I see in your avatar that you show the Vultee Vengeance. For the most part I heard that they weren't very good aircraft but that your fellow countryman made good use of them in Burma.
The Vengeance was an excellent dive bomber that proved highly effective in pin point attacks against Japanese positions. The RAF and Indian AF used them to good effect in Burma. The a/c in my sig belongs to 24 sqn RAAF, who along with 3 other vengeance squadrons operated successfully, although relatively shorlty, in New Guinea.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:30 PM   #5
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The Baltimore was derived from the Maryland, which was a fast bomber for it's generation, but was cramped and inadequately armed. The Baltimore had a deeper fuselage, more powerful engines, and somewhat more armament. It was still cramped due to the very narrow fuselage.

The Baltimore certainly performed a valuable service to the allied cause, principally in the MTO. Their exploits are overshadowed in part because few, if any were used by the U.S. However, they were in the thick of the fighting from Tunisia and Sicily to Italy and the Balkans.

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Old 10-19-2007, 04:40 AM   #6
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Baltimore not in Europe? I believe that was a way to simplfy logistics. I believe the same reason for USAAF did not use B-25 in UK. Probably another model of twin engine bomber was not needed along with Blenheim, Mitchell, Boston, Mosquito, Ventura, B-26, A-20...
I read once tha PBM Mariner was liked by RAF but for the same reason it was not used in UK and not acquired by RAF in bigger numbers.

Baltimore used by 5 Air Forces: RAF, RAAF, SAAF and who else?

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Baltimore used by 5 Air Forces: RAF, RAAF, SAAF and who else?Max
I've got Australia, France, Great Britain, Greece, Italy, South Africa and Turkey.
('Combat Aircraft of World War Two' by Weal and Barker)

Very nice photos Wildcat.

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You are so right!

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