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05-20-2009, 03:16 PM
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F6+WK 2(F)/122 NASM, Paul Garber Collection? Looks like it could do with some dollars and love spent on it!
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05-20-2009, 04:05 PM
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 | I was at the RAF museum the other week but at the moment the hall that the 110 is in is closed. Shame!
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05-20-2009, 04:14 PM
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05-20-2009, 05:19 PM
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05-20-2009, 05:49 PM
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05-21-2009, 07:25 AM
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 | Got some pictures of the one in Hendon back in 2006. They aren't great as they were taken on my old camera (point and shoot) and the hall is dark. You'll have to sift through the rest of the photos from Hendon, IWM and HMS Belfast but they are there somewhere (too lazy to link them). London: RAF Museum, Hendon, IWM and HMS Belfast (2006) - a set on Flickr Would be nice to a fully restored and capable flying one from the series (110/210/410) but as along as there as some still around that could be ground run at the least then it is fitting. The risk of flying them is sometimes just got be accepted as too great.
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05-21-2009, 03:12 PM
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 | Seriously, if you any of you guys actually owned an ME-110 that flew, you would not fly it? I'd be flying the hell out of it!!!!!
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05-21-2009, 03:44 PM
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| I can see both sides of the argument. Growing up around old cars, you hear the same debate. When is a car too rare to drive? It seems sad for a old warbird to sit, but it would also be a huge loss for a ware bird to crash and be destroyed. I do agree that the extremely rare ones serve a much greater purpose by sitting on display, and educating the next generations as to what happened and to pass that knowledge on. Passing on that knowledge, and never forgetting is the most important thing IMO.
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05-21-2009, 04:06 PM
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05-21-2009, 04:29 PM
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| Chris, re the RAF Museum. Far as I know, the hall is being restructured, and I believe is due to re-open in time for the main summer season. A quick check on their web-site, nearer the date of your visit to London, might give more info. In the meantime, if I find out anything else, I'll let you know.
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05-21-2009, 05:09 PM
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I suspect more people would see it if it was flying around to different places then would see it sitting in a single museum. Why have any old warplane fly then.
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05-21-2009, 05:57 PM
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| I'm all for restoring warbirds to flying condition and display them on air shows in order to as much people possible could see them, but the point is if you fly it - you risk loosing it. Accidents do happen. If there's only one or two preserved examples of aircraft in question, then isn't the safer course of action to keep it on static display. If there was only one preserved example of Spitfire in entire world, would you fly it or keep it safe on the groud?
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05-21-2009, 06:51 PM
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| It's a tough one. No matter what you do with a warbird it will be at risk; put it on display and the roof could collapse, the building could burn down, it could be vandalised etc etc. I think it is a bit different from old cars in that pottering around in a classic car at 20mph is unlikely to cause any major damage whereas if the engine in a plane cuts out mid flight then that's pretty much it!
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05-24-2009, 11:07 AM
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05-24-2009, 11:15 AM
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| Aw! What a darn shame! Well, you can still see the rest, and there's always the Imperial War Museum, Lambeth, London, and the Science Museum, Kensington. Not that much in the way of aviation exhibits at the latter, compared to dedicated air museums, but they do have a Hurricane Mk 1 and Spitfire Mk1, both veterans of the Bob and, AFAIK, still in their original paint finish.
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