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11-18-2007, 06:06 PM
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11-18-2007, 08:39 PM
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I always felt bad for the troops who were stuck flying in those death traps. Just sitting there as huge targets.
Getting made swiss cheese by the fighters.
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12-17-2007, 07:40 AM
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G'day!
I'm new on this site, and would like to know if anyone has any technical details on the internal mid-wing section of the Gigant - specifically, was it open, or fabric-covered (ie, built as a one-piece wing, and then attached to the fueslage) ?
I'm building the Italeri 1/72 scale kit at the moment, but am not sure on this detail.
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02-20-2008, 05:30 PM
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Hi Evan, I am new to this site too, as you can see i can,t write e-mails properly either. However, i do have a strong interest in german aircraft. Recently, i have been taking an interest in the Gigant, so i am also looking for more data. Just recently, i was watching Sky tv,s HISTORY CHANNEL an episode called WEIRD WEAPONS-THE AXIS of which there is 4 to 5 minutes dedicated to Gigant project. Showing film of wing construction. The programme goes on to say, the tubular steel wing is reinforced by wooden ribs, 22 on each side. The programme also shows the front cargo doors in detail, and that these were again constucted of tubular steel, made by a a local bed manufacturer. Many other parts were supplied by the furniture industry. I hope this is of use to you, and you manage to get a copy of the programme. Good luck Evan. All the best Leonard. | |
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02-20-2008, 07:19 PM
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02-20-2008, 07:19 PM
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02-20-2008, 08:46 PM
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| An airplane well deserving its name.
__________________  We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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02-20-2008, 09:21 PM
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would you rather haver 300 C-47s or 100 ME-323s?
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02-20-2008, 09:58 PM
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| 100 Me-323's for sure. But the Me-323 I suspect is more than 3 times as expensive to produce.
Pretty amazing that it often carried over 18 tons (39,683 lbs !) of cargo from Europe to Africa..
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02-20-2008, 10:05 PM
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02-20-2008, 10:08 PM
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| The protection on the Me-323 was very good, but like every single other other bombers & transport a/c of the war, without escorts its just a sitting duck for enemy fighters.
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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02-20-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Soren  The protection on the Me-323 was very good, but like every single other other bombers & transport a/c of the war, without escorts its just a sitting duck for enemy fighters. | Yes.. I realize that... but one wonders how many pilots thought they had an easy kill only to be chewed up by defensive fire....
It's safe to say they shot down more aircraft then the C-47 did!
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02-20-2008, 10:16 PM
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| Some more interesting pictures of this excellent a/c: Neue Seite 26 
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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02-21-2008, 08:39 AM
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Country: | Thanks Leonard, and welcome to the chicken coop, mate!
That's really interesting what you said, I'll remember those details when building the interior. I'll have to keep my eyes open for that programme too if they put it out on DVD (We don't have Cable TV).
Micdrow sent me a great pic of the wing under construction when I posted my question again under 'Messerschmitt Me 323'- check it out!
Thanks again to you too B17 and Soren, those are great pictures!
Incidently, would do you guys reckon would look better coming out of a 323 in 1:72 scale? I'm thinking either an SdKfz 7/1 towing an 88 mm Flak gun, or maybe a nice self-propelled gun of some description. (Shame the Nashorn was too heavy -24 tonne, max. cargo weight for a Gigant 22 tonne- Revell do a beautiful kit of it) | |
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02-21-2008, 08:56 AM
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| Two Marder III's coming out would look cool, but so would a Sd.Kfz. 7 towing an FH-18.
An Opel Blitz Omnibus & a small warewagon would look massive.
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