 | Mossie nf vs He 219 nf| Aviation Discuss Mossie nf vs He 219 nf in the World War II - Aviation forums; good point... |
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06-01-2004, 10:20 AM
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06-01-2004, 11:14 AM
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Country: | Very true but sometimes they are still affected by propaganda and general misinformation. I cannot say it is a poor book because it is old, but because a lot of books are often revised you must take some of their information with a grain of salt.
In any case, I believe this book to be written by a Spitfire pilot of the war (Bill Gunston) if anyone has heard of him. He holds a lot of respect for the Fw-190.
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06-01-2004, 12:11 PM
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Country: | title bitte ? I probably have it. Kommando Nowotny shot down the three a/c you mention........ |
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06-01-2004, 12:30 PM
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Country: | It actually says that but I failed to mention it well it actually says it was EKdo that became Kommando Nowotny
Not an inventive name just 'Classic Aircraft:Fighters'...
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06-01-2004, 12:41 PM
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Country: | unless you are strapped for the dosh go find a copy of the Messerschmitt combat diary-Me 262 by John forman and S.E. Harvey. woth every penny as well as Claissic Pubs me 262 volumes, 3 and 4 on the jet.......
many first person accounts both Allied and Luftwaffe
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06-01-2004, 12:48 PM
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Country: | a good tip is to check out second hand bookshops, they normally have a good selection...................
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06-01-2004, 02:34 PM
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06-02-2004, 06:59 PM
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| Yeah, I mentioned that priority was being given to the Jet Development - Aside from that, the He 219 and the Do 335 were the two piston-engined designs that were the main Nightfighter Programs, as regard to progressing past the Do 217 N, the Bf 110 and the Ju 88, although the latter's G series was still in the running...- The He 219's main problems were the Generalluftzeugmeister Erhard Milch, who despised Heinkel and Kammhuber, and wanted to push the Ju 88 G and the Do 335 programs instead. - Also, the availability of the DB 603 G & L series engines, which were initially specified for the He 219, were well behind delivery schedule, so earlier models had to make do with the lesser-powered DB 603 A engines. They eventually got the right engines in them, the He 219 A7 becoming the most important service version of the fighter. Albert Speer, Minister for Armaments, got this version rolling, overiding Milch.- By late 1943, I/NJG 1 were the main operators, 7/NJG 5 in Flensburg also having them with their Ju 88's & Bf 110's. - They played around with a He 319 & 419 version, and tried using Jumo 222's on them, but the basic He 219 A series stayed-on and did the work up to War's end.....- IMHO , the He 219 was an outstanding aircraft, suffering few teething troubles that other contemporaries had, vacillation by Technisches Amt, Milch's interference and Allied bombing doing the most damage to it's program....If they'd had more sooner, the dear old Mossie might've had a tough time....but then again, they never got around to trying Griffons on the Mosquito....would've really left 'em behind then.....P.38's too....!!! |
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06-02-2004, 10:31 PM
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| Hey, the Brits never thought to fit Merlins in the Lightning either. If an Allison-engined P-38 could match the peformance of a Merlin-engined P-51, what could the Lightning have done with those engines?
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06-03-2004, 05:13 AM
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06-03-2004, 12:51 PM
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what could the Lightning have done with those engines?
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i think it would have made a hell of a fighter......................
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06-03-2004, 03:22 PM
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06-03-2004, 10:26 PM
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| The USAAF never did the expirements with the Lightning that it should. Part of the reason was that a second line was never openned until 1945 and the USAAF was unwilling to accept any delays in the production of Lightnings from the only exsisting plant.
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06-04-2004, 01:03 PM
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06-04-2004, 10:47 PM
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| No its not, especially when some of the planes that had two or more plants set up to produce them are considered.
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