 | Most effective planes of the early war years| Aviation Discuss Most effective planes of the early war years in the World War II - Aviation forums; yes i think the spit Mk.I should be included as she was in service before dunquirk.........
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06-06-2005, 10:13 AM
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#16 | | Master of Ewes
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and i think this's really between the hurricane and -109E if the spit's excluded...........
and of course are we forgetting the wellington?? she was in service but didn't see and major action before dunquirk, but very few british planes did.........
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06-06-2005, 10:25 AM
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Country:  | How about the Betty Bomber (G4M-1)? It did run wild in the first few years of the Pacific War until it was found out it was a "Flying Cigar."
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06-06-2005, 10:41 AM
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06-06-2005, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese How about the Handley Page Hampden? Great plane. | I agree 
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06-06-2005, 11:19 AM
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Country: | The Zero didn't meet the Spitfire until 1943, over the skies of Burma. It's strange that a lot of people seem to think they met before then.
And, damn it, the Mohawk has to have mention!
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06-06-2005, 11:36 AM
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Country:  | You probably wont like to hear this guys and say "he's off again about those bloody Swordfish"  but most effective plane in the early years the do it all Stringbag I am currently reading a brilliant book by Charles Lamb (War in a Stringbag) he served from before the war till 1945 in nothing but Swordfish from Europe too the Far East and he admits they where slow and vulnerable, the on board armaments of one syncronized Vickers 303 and a TAG operated Lewis gun where throw backs to WW1 and virtually useless. Their only real defense was outstanding maneuverability and the ability to take punishment but when used for the right missions they could and where incredibly effective.
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06-06-2005, 11:39 AM
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06-06-2005, 11:42 AM
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06-06-2005, 12:51 PM
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| Trackend, How many were in France?
Seriously fair point but I suspect that the Devistator was a better torpedo plane at the time. | |
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06-06-2005, 02:07 PM
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| How about the Heinkel 111 or Junkers 88? | |
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06-06-2005, 02:38 PM
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#26 | | Master of Ewes
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Originally Posted by Glider Trackend, How many were in France?
Seriously fair point but I suspect that the Devistator was a better torpedo plane at the time. | None Glider,
How many Devastators in the early years of WW2 where in France?
You may be right Gilder that the TBD was a better torpedo plane but the thread is asking for the most effective not the best plane in the early years of the war. for me thats 1939 - 41 within those years I believe that the Stringbag was more effective, indeed it is a bone of contention that the Swordfish was the single most effective anti shipping plane of WW2 in terms of gross tonnage however having tried to verifiy it myself I believe it is extremley hard to quantifiy the exact figures or say that about any other specific aircraft also.
The Stringbag carried an 18" 1610lb torpedo I believe the TBD carried a 1000lb weapon I think punch helps as well as speed.
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06-06-2005, 03:07 PM
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Country: | And remember, American torpedoes were Sh*t at the beginning of the war! 
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06-06-2005, 03:42 PM
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| No Lancaster. As effecrtive aircraft. The bloody thread is about effective aircraft. What aboutr the Heinkel 111 and Junkers 88? | |
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06-06-2005, 03:47 PM
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#30 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i'd say the he-111 was more effective than the ju-88........
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