MOST OVERRATED AIRCRAFT OF WWII - Aircraft of World War II

DAVIDICUS · 04-12-2005, 11:56 PM

Which aircraft achieved a popular reputation that far exceeded their actual performance or capability?

Gentlemen, let the mud slinging begin.

GermansRGeniuses · 04-13-2005, 12:11 AM

I'll start the mud throwing.

Spitfire.

Good, but many planes were better in most categories, such as the La-7.

DAVIDICUS · 04-13-2005, 12:14 AM

P-51 Mustang

(It stole the P-47 Thunderbolt's rightful place in history)

FLYBOYJ · 04-13-2005, 01:09 AM

P-51 - I think the Corsair was superior. Just ask Capt. Fernando Soto of the HAF - He shot down a Mustang During the Soccer War, 1969

04-13-2005, 01:18 AM

Well of course his 1947 F4U-5 totally outclassed the P-51D he was facing. Just because the F4U Corsair was a truely great plane does not make the P-51 "over-rated".

I'd probably have to say the Zero was the most over-rated plane of WWII. It had a few strengths but once it was a known quantity it was defeated even by early war contemporaries such as the F4F Wildcat.

mosquitoman · 04-13-2005, 07:08 AM

Either the Zero or the Stuka, both had reputations of "invincibility" which were dispersed when they came up against serious opposition

BombTaxi · 04-13-2005, 07:48 AM

I'd say Spitfire. From the BoB onwards, popular history treats it like the ONLY RAF fighter. This of course, totally discounts the contributions made by planes like the Hurricane, Typhoon and Mossie, which all served in the same thetres and roles as the Spit, but hardly seem to get a mention, despite all having thier own advantages over the Spit.

mosquitoman · 04-13-2005, 08:18 AM

I'll agree with that, but the Spit was active in all theatres in large numbers

FLYBOYJ · 04-13-2005, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic

Well of course his 1947 F4U-5 totally outclassed the P-51D he was facing. Just because the F4U Corsair was a truely great plane does not make the P-51 "over-rated".

I'd probably have to say the Zero was the most over-rated plane of WWII. It had a few strengths but once it was a known quantity it was defeated even by early war contemporaries such as the F4F Wildcat.

I think the earlier F4U were superior as well, but I do agree the Zero has gotten a lot of attention for no real reason!

evangilder · 04-13-2005, 10:56 AM

I would say the Zero as well. Because of misconceptions about Japanese capabilities, it had an air of invincibility early in the war. It didn't take long to figure out that it was pretty vulnerable. The only armor on the Zero was a small plate behind the pilot. And that armor was pretty weak. I once heard Steve Barber say that the glass directly ahead of the pilot (which by the way is bullet-proof on the Hellcat) wouldn't stop a mosquito (the bug, not the airplan, guys!) at high speed.

BombTaxi · 04-13-2005, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosquitoman

I'll agree with that, but the Spit was active in all theatres in large numbers

Granted, but it was outnumbered 2 to 1 in the BoB by Hurris alone. I'll dig up some stats, but I get the feeling it wasnt the pricipal type in the MTO or NW Europe in terms of numbers deployed, or percentage of squdrons equipped with the type.

cheddar cheese · 04-13-2005, 01:35 PM

Ill have to say the Spitfire too.

the lancaster kicks ass · 04-13-2005, 02:16 PM

B-17

sorry, had to say it...........

BombTaxi · 04-13-2005, 02:22 PM

I dont think the B17 was overrated. Its limitations were known, and the continual upgrades managed to keep it servicable. I'll grant it is now treated like the only bomber the 8th AF flew, but you could say that about Bomber Command and a certain Avro design... (based, I believe on one of the worst a/c ever to serve with the Command?)

***Lights blue touch paper and retires***

trackend · 04-13-2005, 03:36 PM

I'll throw my two pence worth into the ring HE 262 unreliable engines prone to flame out, slow throttle up
Stoppage problems with the MK 108 cannons and I believe only 300 saw active service as most where destroyed on the ground.

04-12-2005, 11:56 PM	#1
DAVIDICUS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 819	MOST OVERRATED AIRCRAFT OF WWII Which aircraft achieved a popular reputation that far exceeded their actual performance or capability? Gentlemen, let the mud slinging begin. __________________ . -=DAVIDICUS MAXIMUS=- .

04-13-2005, 12:11 AM	#2
GermansRGeniuses Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,043	I'll start the mud throwing. Spitfire. Good, but many planes were better in most categories, such as the La-7. __________________ Holder of "Crappiest Post Ever" Award. 2005 Palos Verdes Concours d'Elegance Thread

04-13-2005, 12:14 AM	#3
DAVIDICUS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 819	P-51 Mustang (It stole the P-47 Thunderbolt's rightful place in history) __________________ . -=DAVIDICUS MAXIMUS=- .

04-13-2005, 07:08 AM	#6
mosquitoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saffron Walden/Sheffield Posts: 2,991	Either the Zero or the Stuka, both had reputations of "invincibility" which were dispersed when they came up against serious opposition __________________ When you realise that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually an oncoming train, you know it's time to run for your life

04-13-2005, 07:48 AM	#7
BombTaxi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brownhills, W. Mids, UK Posts: 1,189	I'd say Spitfire. From the BoB onwards, popular history treats it like the ONLY RAF fighter. This of course, totally discounts the contributions made by planes like the Hurricane, Typhoon and Mossie, which all served in the same thetres and roles as the Spit, but hardly seem to get a mention, despite all having thier own advantages over the Spit. __________________ Good generals think about tactics. Great generals think about logistics. "If freedom is to be saved and enlarged, poverty must be ended. There is no other solution." - Nye Bevan "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee" - John Donne, Meditation XVII

04-13-2005, 01:18 AM	#5
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	Well of course his 1947 F4U-5 totally outclassed the P-51D he was facing. Just because the F4U Corsair was a truely great plane does not make the P-51 "over-rated". I'd probably have to say the Zero was the most over-rated plane of WWII. It had a few strengths but once it was a known quantity it was defeated even by early war contemporaries such as the F4F Wildcat.

04-13-2005, 08:18 AM	#8
mosquitoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saffron Walden/Sheffield Posts: 2,991	I'll agree with that, but the Spit was active in all theatres in large numbers __________________ When you realise that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually an oncoming train, you know it's time to run for your life

04-13-2005, 10:56 AM	#10
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	I would say the Zero as well. Because of misconceptions about Japanese capabilities, it had an air of invincibility early in the war. It didn't take long to figure out that it was pretty vulnerable. The only armor on the Zero was a small plate behind the pilot. And that armor was pretty weak. I once heard Steve Barber say that the glass directly ahead of the pilot (which by the way is bullet-proof on the Hellcat) wouldn't stop a mosquito (the bug, not the airplan, guys!) at high speed. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

04-13-2005, 01:35 PM	#12
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Ill have to say the Spitfire too.

04-13-2005, 02:16 PM	#13
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	B-17 sorry, had to say it........... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

04-13-2005, 02:22 PM	#14
BombTaxi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brownhills, W. Mids, UK Posts: 1,189	I dont think the B17 was overrated. Its limitations were known, and the continual upgrades managed to keep it servicable. I'll grant it is now treated like the only bomber the 8th AF flew, but you could say that about Bomber Command and a certain Avro design... (based, I believe on one of the worst a/c ever to serve with the Command?) *Lights blue touch paper and retires* __________________ Good generals think about tactics. Great generals think about logistics. "If freedom is to be saved and enlarged, poverty must be ended. There is no other solution." - Nye Bevan "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee" - John Donne, Meditation XVII

04-13-2005, 03:36 PM	#15
trackend Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canvey Island, Essex Posts: 4,029	I'll throw my two pence worth into the ring HE 262 unreliable engines prone to flame out, slow throttle up Stoppage problems with the MK 108 cannons and I believe only 300 saw active service as most where destroyed on the ground.

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