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Old 03-10-2008, 01:09 PM   #31
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If you wanna hang bombs on something that's got jet engines, do it with an Ar 234, that's what it was designed for (and it wasn't much slower than a -262). The Me 262 was designed, from the outset, as a bomber destroyer, pure & simple, not a fighter/bomber.
I wonder why he was trying to make the 262 a bomber then?
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:08 AM   #32
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If memory serves (which it probably doesn't ) the 50mm cannon was shown to be so prone to jamming that it was basically worthless. Plus the strain it put on the airframe was incredible. Or am I thinking of another big cannon they mounted to an airframe.

Heck, I can't remember. Someone help!!!!!!
dude the 50mm cannon never relly worked the flash was so big and it would only hold like 20 rounds in it so they went with 20mm or 30mms
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:21 AM   #33
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:31 AM   #35
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stop taking the piss out of him guys.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:49 AM   #39
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Nice try 3456, but war is a bit more sophisticated. 3 miles? Mortars could hit that airfield!
I'm sorry, the word I was looking for was sarcasm with my post.
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Old 06-07-2008, 06:16 PM   #40
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On a serious note, Hitler's insistance on the use of the Me 262 as a fighter-bomber, while not having a major effecton on development, did have a significant effect on the number of Me 262's to see use as interceptors. (even though the first Schwalbe deliveries did precede the first Sturmvogel ones)
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:08 AM   #41
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True Kool. When first put into production, about 50 were made as interceptors when Hitler asked how many were bombers. When finding out that none were he went into a rage and ordered all to made into bombers which slowed the program because of the modifications.

Except one unit was kept to explore the fighter concept and Galland finally convinced Hitler to allow fighters. It eventually ended up with an order of something like every fifth 262 would be a fighter - or something to that effect.

But add that to the engine problems, pilot training (especially getting former bomber pilots to understand dogfighting and not level flight) and other worries, it wasn't the only reason for the 262's slow trek to operations. But it did help significantly.
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now from what i know the 262 was desined as a fighter but Hitler told them to put bombs on it. i honistly think that was a bad idea.
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I'm sorry, the word I was looking for was sarcasm with my post.
Yep i got the sarcasm in your original post...

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stop taking the piss out of him guys.
He's learning, some good posts lately

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So did Hitler actually say that attacking bombers with a jet was for "Losers"?

Actually I think the exact quote was that they were "Wänken über-Lüzers"
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