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03-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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now from what i know the 262 was desined as a fighter but Hitler thought that stoping allied bombers with a jet was for losers and told them to put bombs on it. i honistly think that was a bad idea. | 
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03-07-2008, 11:25 AM
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Country:  | So did Hitler actually say that attacking bombers with a jet was for "Losers"? 
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03-07-2008, 11:26 AM
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03-07-2008, 11:33 AM
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03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fly boy  i honistly think that was a bad idea. | Me too. 
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03-07-2008, 11:41 AM
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Country: | yea all the 262 would have to do is fly about 1000ft above the bombers dive shoot all their rockets and fly back to base hopefull that the escort didn't follow them to base and that it it so easy | |
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03-07-2008, 11:43 AM
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Country: | Well they could do that but i think they might stop at winchells first for a donut and coffee 
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03-07-2008, 01:09 PM
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03-07-2008, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet So did Hitler actually say that attacking bombers with a jet was for "Losers"? | ROFL!
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03-07-2008, 01:28 PM
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Country: | Also, I think hitler liked the idea of a fast bomber to give it a role suitable for the Blitzkreig tactics that served him well in the earlier stages of the war. Rather than expanding on these newer revolutionary aircraft, he insisted that all existing aircraft models be improved and altred in several ways to get an "ideal variant" due of their successful operational history at the break of the war.
As far as the 262 goes, there was a variant with a 50mm cannon in the nose. I wonder how effective it would've been against those bombers? Variants: Me 262A-1a/U4 | |
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03-07-2008, 01:45 PM
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Country: | If memory serves (which it probably doesn't ) the 50mm cannon was shown to be so prone to jamming that it was basically worthless. Plus the strain it put on the airframe was incredible. Or am I thinking of another big cannon they mounted to an airframe.
Heck, I can't remember. Someone help!!!!!!
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03-07-2008, 01:50 PM
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Country: | That was later before all the fun stuff. Actually it was the engines that gave the program problems and lengthened the time it got to service.
Hitler just added icing to the cake with his obsession with dive bombers and saw a potential to keep the Allies off the beaches when the attack came by using the 262 as a bomber. He actually ordered that every few 262s produced would be a fighter. But the engines, the engines......
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03-07-2008, 01:58 PM
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Country: | I do remember that the actual combat life of the Jumo engines was only 12 hours!!!! Incredible.
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03-07-2008, 01:59 PM
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03-07-2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Njaco I think 10 - 12. Still freaking limited! | Yeah, with an MTBF of around 25 hours.
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