 | P-40 vs. Hurricane| Aviation Discuss P-40 vs. Hurricane in the World War II - Aviation forums; on the P40 N subject, I could be wrong about this, but I think they had increase ammo capacity at ... |
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10-04-2005, 10:54 PM
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Country:  | on the P40 N subject, I could be wrong about this, but I think they had increase ammo capacity at the expense of a pair of guns. | 
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10-05-2005, 02:16 PM
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| Awww hell just give me a x-wing.
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10-05-2005, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MacArther on the P40 N subject, I could be wrong about this, but I think they had increase ammo capacity at the expense of a pair of guns. | I think you meant decrease. Putting 6 guns in the wings in lieu of 4 - I believe your're correct...
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10-05-2005, 03:20 PM
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| I'm having trouble figuring it out, most references don't give Amo counts.
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10-05-2005, 04:05 PM
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Country: | You missunder stood me, I mean the earlier models had 6 guns in the wings, and to lighten the plane 2 guns were obmitted. However, this left more room for fuel and ammo. | |
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10-05-2005, 04:17 PM
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10-05-2005, 05:40 PM
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10-05-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass taking guns out of a fighter wont allow more room for fuel........ | Wanna Bet? Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D It would if there's wing tanks and you put in bigger tanks. | Exactly!
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10-05-2005, 09:39 PM
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Country: | Wouldn't the room also be used for extra ammo for the four guns? If you remove 2 guns, then there is much more room for ammo and fuel, and thus more flight and firing time. | |
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10-05-2005, 11:14 PM
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10-06-2005, 12:48 PM
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10-06-2005, 01:26 PM
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10-06-2005, 01:50 PM
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Country: | yeah but them planes didn't even have all their armourment in the wings of course they can have wing tanks 
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10-06-2005, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass yeah but them planes didn't even have all their armourment in the wings of course they can have wing tanks | WRONG! P-36, P-39 and Zero had wing guns!!! 
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10-06-2005, 03:31 PM
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| Tough one. I like both planes and no doubt it will all be subjective. Both had mixed careers as fighters (pursuit) and ground attack.
The Hurri was already obsolescent by WW2. Under the skin it used much of the design of 30s biplanes. But that made it easier to build and repair when that was important. In contrast the P40 was the first of the next generation with a lot more metal. As a fighter it outgunned the Hurri (until the 20 mm cannon but they were for ground attack not AtA). But I think the Hurri was more manoeuvrable at most altitudes.
They were contemporary and the RAF used both... I don't think the Hurri ever made it to USAAF service etc. (Unlike the Spitfire) - and kept using them until they were replaced by the Typhoon and P51, respectively (I think). So they were not in service for all that long c.f. the Spitfire or 109 which the Hurri fought with in BoB.
On reflection I would have to say that the Hurri edges out the P40 due to its versatility. It was used in some very challenging roles but few planes could have withstood being rocket-fired off a pitching merchantman's deck in the Arctic to pursue Condors. Plus I think the Hurri was one of the first allied planes to use rocket projectiles and the P40 did not. | |
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