 | P-40 vs. Hurricane| Aviation Discuss P-40 vs. Hurricane in the World War II - Aviation forums; I lean toward the Hurricane for historical reasons but I do think the P-40 was more rugged than the ... |
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09-25-2005, 12:55 PM
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#16 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I lean toward the Hurricane for historical reasons but I do think the P-40 was more rugged than the Hurricane and probably overall a better aircraft than the Hurricane. My vote is still up in the air at this point.
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09-25-2005, 01:38 PM
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| Did the Hurricane see much service as an actual fighter in North Africa?
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09-25-2005, 02:16 PM
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#18 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | remember the hurricane was fitted woth twin 40mm cannon and was ripping rommel's armour to shreads in africa.........
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09-25-2005, 02:17 PM
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#19 | | Der Crewchief
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09-25-2005, 02:20 PM
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#20 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes but that's not part of the discussion, fact is, the P-40 wasn't ripping armour apart.......
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09-25-2005, 02:21 PM
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#21 | | Der Crewchief
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09-25-2005, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lightning Guy Did the Hurricane see much service as an actual fighter in North Africa? | It primarily did ground attack but low and middle level in fighter sweeps and escorting were also common. P-38s often flew high cover for attack, sweeps and escorting using the P-40 where it was most effective.
I don't have the numbers handy but the P-40s with a top cover, on several occasions, decimated the arial convoys accross the Med. to Tunisia. Stuka formations were wiped out on a couple of other occasions. The P-40 was quite effective through early/mid '43 and held its own through '44.
I need more info on the Hurricane before I decide.
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09-25-2005, 02:23 PM
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#23 | | Der Crewchief
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09-25-2005, 02:25 PM
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#24 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | well the whoping gread big sand filters helped the hurricane and she was always easy to maintain but any maintenance is hard in the desert.........
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09-25-2005, 02:29 PM
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#25 | | Der Crewchief
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09-25-2005, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Which aircraft operated better in the hot sandy desert environment? | I'll look around for some info. I have not heard of any particular problems with the P-40s, the British planes got those filters but the price was a large horse power loss.
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09-25-2005, 03:31 PM
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| The sweeps that the P-40s flew against the Ju-52s were often joined by P-38s. For some reason, the US never developed any sort of sand filters.
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09-25-2005, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lightning Guy The sweeps that the P-40s flew against the Ju-52s were often joined by P-38s. For some reason, the US never developed any sort of sand filters. | Right on!
It was normal for P-38s to act as top cover in many of the missions of the P-40. Effective management of assets allowed the P-40 to live up to its potential. Top cover did get involved to.
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09-25-2005, 07:09 PM
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#29 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Hmm intersting. Thanks for the info.
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09-25-2005, 10:34 PM
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| The Hurricane.
Not because it was any better than the P-40, but because the P-40 should have outclassed the Hurricane, and didn't.
The Hurricane first flew in 1935, the P-40 in 1938.
The Hurricane entered squadron service at the start of 1937, the P-40 in mid 1940.
The Hurricane made it's first kill in October 1939, in the summer of 1940 it was the dominant fighter in the BoB, and had been the mainstay of the RAF for 2 years. By this time the P-40 was just getting into service.
The P-40 wasn't a bad plane. If it had come out at the same time as the Hurricane, it might have been a great plane. But it was much later than the Hurricane, without being better. Later even than the Spitfire, and it wasn't in the same league. | |
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