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Old 08-04-2006, 05:48 PM   #301
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I havent read all 20 pages, but are we comparing the Hurricane I, in combat in 1939 & 1940 where it often bested the bf109E with the P-40E.

The basic P-40 (Hawk 81 first flew in Oct 193, the Hurricane in November 1935 and only ordered into production in April 1939.

By Sept 1940, only 200 P40 were in Service, this is at the height of the Hurricane's greatest challenge, the Batle of Britain. The first combat by the RAF with P-40B (Tomahawk I) was by 112 Sqn in the Western Desert as a Fighter Bomber.

So this comparison is between Cheese & Chalk, the P40 being a few years younger could take advantage of improved engines and weapons (Though I've never seen one with Rockets or a 40mm AT gun) whereas the Hurri had passed its prime and was relegated to the minor theatres. A better comparison would be against the P-36/Hawk 75, still a bit younger than the Hurri.

Someone mentioned the RAAF trials between the P40E & SpitfireVc, comments included the fact the Spits paint job was rough, and took some sped off, the bloody Vokes filter handicapped the Spit and the Spit used was from 1 OTU where the trainee pilots burned the stuffings out of the engine. But the P40E/Kittyhawk Ia was a solid aircraft and RAAF & USAAF pilots regulary fought Zekes & Hayabusas over Darwin, Port Moresby & Milne Bay with success.
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Someone mentioned the RAAF trials between the P40E & SpitfireVc, comments included the fact the Spits paint job was rough, and took some sped off, the bloody Vokes filter handicapped the Spit and the Spit used was from 1 OTU where the trainee pilots burned the stuffings out of the engine.
true, although I've read that many of the new Spitfires went to the OTU's while the front line squadrons (452,457,54RAF) kept rotating through their overhauled ones. However I agree Jeff, the air vokes filter was probably the biggest disadvantage.
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Its official designation is the "Bloody Vokes Filter"
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Hurricane.

I was interested to see that the Yugoslavians fitted a captured Hurri with a DB-601 engine and found that so engined, it outperformed the 109E in take-off and climb-rate and had a slightly better performance in the turn.

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Personally i'll prefer Hurri , even that P40 has a better performance ( p40 was newer).
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