 | P-51 Mustang or F4U Corsair| Aviation Discuss P-51 Mustang or F4U Corsair in the World War II - Aviation forums; Nice point twitch.... |
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04-06-2006, 11:43 AM
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04-06-2006, 12:00 PM
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| I think the best looking would be a Mustang II in RAF Sea Grey/Green camouflage with a Malcolm hood.
While the F-4U is sweet, the lack of variation in color schemes is a little dull...
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04-06-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ | That's the guy. Quite a pilot. The only person in the world to shoot down a P-51 and an F4U (two). |
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04-06-2006, 12:22 PM
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Country: | Oops, forgot about the Korean War. Both birds flew there. Highly unlikely one person shot both down in that conflict, though. |
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04-06-2006, 02:35 PM
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| F4U Corsair all the way.
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04-06-2006, 04:41 PM
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| Hardly an excellent comparison...
The F4U-4 Corsair wasn't just a little better than the P-51, it was ALOT better ! And regardless of what that site says, the P-51 experienced severe compressibility problems at very high speeds, something the Corsair didn't.
The only fighter I would feel confident in going up against a F4U-4 Corsair would be the Fw-190 Dora-9, in anything else I'd be pretty nervous !
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04-06-2006, 05:10 PM
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| Lets see some figures for roll rate's
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04-06-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OrionIFT I think the best looking would be a Mustang II in RAF Sea Grey/Green camouflage with a Malcolm hood.
While the F-4U is sweet, the lack of variation in color schemes is a little dull... | Welcome Orion! An AD2 here, formally with VP-65!
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04-07-2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Twitch Well at least this isn't the bogus "which one could 'out dogfight' the other?" sillyness I've seen people taking seriously around here. I like both these planes depending on the mood I'm in. I'd certinly defend either as excellent due to their combat histories. And as the Air Force and Navy have laid down the requirements that make sense I'd go with- The P-51 in combat over land masses and the F4U for use over water against any enemy of the era.  | I Agree with this for the most part, but I find my self looking at the P-51 and saying to myself," Yes it was a great plane, but so what!"
I don't know why, I admit the Mustang is certainly one of the finest, it just hasn't endeared itself to me. I'll even say that the Mustang prettymuch won the air war over europe. I still don't care for it. I'd much rather shine my enthusiasm on a P-40 or F-4U, or an FW-190, preferably the Anton, but the Dora is equally sweet.
Just my random thoughts. |
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04-07-2006, 06:37 PM
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| "I'll even say that the Mustang prettymuch won the air war over europe."
No way mate. The P-51 happened to come along after the Luftwaffe's back had already broken. Planes like the P-38 and P-47 did the heavy lifting. |
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04-08-2006, 02:07 AM
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Country: | i can see what you're saying Camarogenius, i think it's because as a fighter the P-51 wasn't anything special, the most special things about it were it's range and that she was avialable in large numbers, other than that on a level playing feild most late war fighters could atleast match her, fighters like the -190D were better, but wasn't around in as large numbers or did she get all the propaganda the P-51 did.........
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04-08-2006, 10:36 AM
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| The P51's speed was always excellent. Range, speed and ceiling plus generally good all around handling makes for a great aircraft.
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04-08-2006, 03:53 PM
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| Both Jank and Lanc are right on. Sys, it was a great plane for that time and place.
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04-08-2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Soren Hardly an excellent comparison...
The F4U-4 Corsair wasn't just a little better than the P-51, it was ALOT better ! And regardless of what that site says, the P-51 experienced severe compressibility problems at very high speeds, something the Corsair didn't.
The only fighter I would feel confident in going up against a F4U-4 Corsair would be the Fw-190 Dora-9, in anything else I'd be pretty nervous ! | That site is very close. Your right the P-51 did get out of hand at very high speeds but the F4U sometimes lost wing fabric to. Also that comparison was very fair and accurate to all sides, note also that the P-38L met or exceeded virtually all performance categories.
I would also take a P-38J/L against the F4U-4 and a few Spits.
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