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01-29-2006, 04:20 PM
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01-31-2006, 04:37 AM
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Country:  | it would be freaky sitting in a cramped little manned turret behind the roaring engine!
and like u cant get out 'till after landing
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02-01-2006, 02:42 PM
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Country:  | You dont sit in those turrets. They're controlled by men in the observation posts on the dorsal part of the fuselage.
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02-02-2006, 03:11 AM
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Country: | i know that... i was just trying to interpret how it would be if they were manned turrets
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02-02-2006, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese You dont sit in those turrets. They're controlled by men in the observation posts on the dorsal part of the fuselage. | Seems like shooting down allied aircraft was a challenge for the gunners in the P.108. I think just having a airman just swivle the gun around seemed much easier.
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02-04-2006, 07:09 AM
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#51 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yeah i don't really see the advantages they offer over man operated turrets in the fusilage, not without proper sighting computers anyway.........
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02-04-2006, 08:35 AM
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Country:  | Without some kind of computer assistance it would be very difficult. It was a decent idea just not quite there yet.
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02-04-2006, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Without some kind of computer assistance it would be very difficult. It was a decent idea just not quite there yet. | Agreed, given more time maybe then it would have been perfected but that is something the Italians ran out of...
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02-05-2006, 08:05 AM
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#54 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Speaking of the Italians, Mussolinis last son died the other day. I know its off topic, but what you said made me think of that for somereason.
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02-05-2006, 08:42 AM
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| The crashed P.108 of capt. Bruno Mussolini, 7 aug 1941. 
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02-08-2006, 02:21 AM
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#56 | | Master of Ewes
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02-08-2006, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by "Witness to War" by Richard J. Aldrich P336 However Bruno died not in action but away from the front line at the large aircraft factory at Pontedera. Previously a specialist air-engine factory, it now produced a range of fighter, transport planes and bombers. One of these, the Piaggio 108, an experimental 4 engined heavy bomber, crashed in the countryside outside Pisa on it first test flight on 7 August 1941. Everyone on board died except for the co-pilot. The chief pilot was Bruno Mussolini |
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| However, the aircraft of Bruno Mussolini was not "experimental". It was the first operative plane delivered to 274th Squadriglia.
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