 | The pilots backpack| Aviation Discuss The pilots backpack in the World War II - Aviation forums; Imagine you're been shot down but managed to crash land and get out of you're plane.
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02-22-2008, 09:21 AM
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Country: | The pilots backpack Imagine you're been shot down but managed to crash land and get out of you're plane.
Did pilots in ww2 had emergency packs? in case off landing/crashing on enemy territory?
And what did got in it?
I'm quessing:
A (flare) gun
Food and drink
A flashlight
and more usefull stuff.
But you guys can tell me all about it, I'm sure about that.
Greetings Arne
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02-22-2008, 09:32 AM
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Country: | The tropical equipment for the 109 included a 98k Rifle mounted in the rear fuselage. I've seen a picture probably from a manual once. And I read about a russian pilot who always carried a PPSh when he took of. I expect many others did that that too. Some of these things were issued (maps of europe printed on silk scarfs for allied pilots for example), some were personal.
A flare gun is always a good idea, but a revolver may not be so good. In a story about a Whirlwind pilot I read that many of them refused to take a gun with them. In case they were shot down they did not want to provoke a trigger happy (and probably nervous) enemy to kill them.
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02-22-2008, 10:29 AM
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Country: | Krabat42 thank you for reactin so soon. Well I was doubting about the rifles and personal guns.
greetings.
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02-22-2008, 10:31 AM
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Country: | The British crews had foreign money, maps and water purification tablets if nothing else.
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02-22-2008, 10:40 AM
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Country: | So nothing more then that ? I know they were supposed to contact la resistance or the undergound movement but that they carried that little?
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02-22-2008, 10:43 AM
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Country: | I don't know, I'm sure they would have carried more than that. Possibly a knife, a language handbook and fishing line (they would be reasonable suggestions for a survival pack)
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02-22-2008, 10:53 AM
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Country: | Hm indeed those are all logical things. If I've offended you with my previous post my apologies for that.
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02-22-2008, 11:00 AM
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02-22-2008, 11:03 AM
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Country: | Yeah well I'm kind of hoping to make a list off things. for different countries and then compare. I do hope it works.
but sometimes I go in overdrive to get the answer 
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02-22-2008, 05:22 PM
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02-23-2008, 11:02 AM
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Country: | Some of the German aircraft in North Africa also carried "drillings" a break-open three barrelled gun, usually two 16 gauge barrels and a rifle barrel underneath. I've seen pictures of Luftwaffe markings on them. Supposedly in case they went down in country loaded with wildlife........ Guns and Ammo Magazine did a write-up on them, back in the 1970s. They were, by no means, common issue, though. |
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02-24-2008, 02:52 PM
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Country: | hmm for shooting wild? or Tommies and yanks?
Thanks for the extra info.
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02-29-2008, 04:37 AM
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Country: | Another thought: If this stuff was issued, there must be regulations (in the military, regulations is everything). So why not ask the archives, for example of the RAF, Armee de'l Air etc.? |
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02-29-2008, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Krabat42 Another thought: If this stuff was issued, there must be regulations (in the military, regulations is everything). So why not ask the archives, for example of the RAF, Armee de'l Air etc.? | Can you do that from Belgium? I mean by mail off course.
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03-06-2008, 04:54 AM
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Country: | There's museums which you could ask. The RAF museum in Hendon for example. |
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