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07-09-2006, 04:59 PM
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#301 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Hey Schwarzpanzer, Im still waiting for a response on that damn Mig-15 kill that was not in service in WW2....
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07-11-2006, 10:03 PM
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#302 | | Senior Member
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07-11-2006, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by schwarzpanzer My grandads Aircraft Carrier (it wasn't exactly 'his') at the end of WW2, HMS Ocean, apparently had a Hawker Sea Fury that destroyed at least 1 MiG 15 Faggot. I think he left before that happened, but it's something I've been meaning to ask him. | Obviously the Mig-15 was not shot down during WWII. However, in Korea,
"The Sea Fury performed air strikes with any ordnance it could carry, including sea mines. It operated from the Weapons delivery was extremely accurate for the days of unguided weapons, and one Sea Fury even shot down a MiG-15. On 9 August 1952, a flight of four FB.11s from the HMS OCEAN was on a "train busting" mission when they were jumped by eight MiG-15s. The MiG pilots foolishly decided to get into a "turning contest" with the agile Sea Furies, and a Sea Fury piloted by Lieutenant Peter "Hoagy" Carmichael managed to get on the tail of a MiG and smash it up with his four 20 millimeter cannon. Two other MiGs were damaged while the Sea Furies returned safely."
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07-12-2006, 10:45 AM
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#304 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Henk How the hell do you get a MIG-15 at the end of WW2 except if it traveled backwards in time which is not possible? | Ask Scwarzpanzer. 
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07-12-2006, 10:47 AM
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#305 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by davparlr Obviously the Mig-15 was not shot down during WWII. However, in Korea,
"The Sea Fury performed air strikes with any ordnance it could carry, including sea mines. It operated from the Weapons delivery was extremely accurate for the days of unguided weapons, and one Sea Fury even shot down a MiG-15. On 9 August 1952, a flight of four FB.11s from the HMS OCEAN was on a "train busting" mission when they were jumped by eight MiG-15s. The MiG pilots foolishly decided to get into a "turning contest" with the agile Sea Furies, and a Sea Fury piloted by Lieutenant Peter "Hoagy" Carmichael managed to get on the tail of a MiG and smash it up with his four 20 millimeter cannon. Two other MiGs were damaged while the Sea Furies returned safely."
Hope this helps. | That I now of and was sure that is what he was talking about. I was just hoping to hear what he was going to say before I posted info on the same incident.
I guess I figures we might get into a long discussion on how the Mig-15 was operational in WW2.
And everyone would tell him: NO!
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07-13-2006, 08:34 AM
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#306 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | there were also several other claims of MiG-15s by sea fury pilots although i don't believe they've managed to confirm them..........
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07-13-2006, 05:42 PM
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07-13-2006, 05:53 PM
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#308 | | the old Sage
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Country: | HEY YOU GUYS ! are you all polluting this thread with the goofy Mig stuff ?? 
let's get back to the real topic shall we
3 januaary 45 coming up maybe tonight .......
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07-13-2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Erich 3 januaary 45 coming up maybe tonight ....... | 
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07-13-2006, 06:10 PM
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#310 | | the old Sage
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Country: | go back Hendrik and read earlier postings we are on 3 Janaury 1945 even with several pages of nonsense that followed. It was asked if we can retrace historical footsteps and I for one am trying to do that .........
Tschüß
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07-13-2006, 06:17 PM
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07-14-2006, 09:51 AM
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#312 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Looking foward to it as allways Erich. Thats the good thing about Erich, he has so many dates and events to go with those dates buried in his brain and archives somewhere.
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07-14-2006, 10:01 AM
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#313 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Erich are you talking about the incident on 03 January 1945 (I think it was 03 January atleast) when 18 Ar-234s were jumped by Spitfires while trying to land at there base after relocating from another? 3 ended up getting shot down, 2 damaged and 2 pilots killed.
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07-14-2006, 01:19 PM
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#314 | | the old Sage
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07-14-2006, 06:23 PM
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#315 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Okay that was the only jets that I know about that were shot down on that day. That was the correct day though I think.
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