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From: BATTALION COMBAT HISTORY - WWII ETO, 2ND BN, 13TH US INF, 8TH DIV
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From: BATTALION COMBAT HISTORY - WWII ETO, 2ND BN, 13TH US INF, 8TH DIV
THE 2ND BATTALION JOURNAL (Code Name GREYHOUND WHITE)
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15-14 Feb 1945 - Elements of BN moved to ROETGEN to practice river crossing assault, then returned to the reserve area. We practiced more amphibious operations near EICHSWEILER. Strafing by Luftwaffe was heavy along the river, as well as artillery. Jet planes were seen for first time.
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24 Feb 1945 - EASY, under Capt Warren, and FOX, under Capt Hemphill continued moving into the residential area against strong resistance and repeated shelling. Maj Dunlap, our splendid BN CO, was lost here during a barrage by 120mm mortars, along with Lt Hickok, S-2, and Lt Iko of HOW. Capt Warren was wounded shortly afterwards. Major Leonard assumed command of the BN and appointed Capt Strickland as Exec., Capt Chamblee as S-3, and Lt Jacobson as S-2. Lt Silcox assumed command of HOW Co. The assault proceeded, but very slowly now as FOX had entered another band of AP mines. The bridge was now complete behind us, and as our platoon of tanks arrived they were attached to GEORGE Co, under the command of Lt Good, and this Task Force was committed on the left flank to pass thru EASY Co thus permitting this unit to partially reorganize. GEORGE Co jabbed 500 yds straight ahead. The final assault was ordered in the form of an envelopment from the left by GEORGE and EASY plus one Plt from FOX; an innovation in this night attack, made at 0100 in the morning, was that one Plt of GEORGE and one of EASY rode on our Tank and T. D. Plts under a canopy of artillery fire (155) in order to pass thru the AP mine fields surrounding the fortification. We were successful. The rocket fire was particularly heavy, in taking the barracks, In addition to the rocket fire, German jet planes bombed and strafed, making the night an inferno, but in this particular thrust through AP mine fields to the barracks we lost one Tank-Inf team only. By 0300 we were buttoned up and the 121ST INF passed thru us to continue the attack - Mission accomplished.
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Rich
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Country: | Jank i did not say that if it was not German then it was ugly. The P-47 D is one of the best looking planes of the war...the Mustang is a stain by the side of the Jug.
I would like to see the photo of a Bf 109 G-10 during late 1944, showing its camo pattern design, now thatīd be something.
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02-07-2007, 07:23 PM
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Country:  | Yeah, the Germans built good looking aircraft in the most part. Good stuff Erich, look forward to what else you post here in time.
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| Art by Gareth Hector depicting an Me-163b diving into cloud cover having exhausted it's fuel while being chased by a diving Thunderbolt.  | |
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02-08-2007, 01:54 PM
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Country:  | That would have to be the scarriest thing. Being in a 163 with now more fuel to burn and having enemy fighters everywhere.
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Country: | If I were the Pilot of that Me-163 I will surely bail out. I heard it glided pretty fast so if the Me-163 dived just think at the speeds.
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| I'd point it straight down and start spinning like crazy praying which ever fighter catches me can't get in a good shot !
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Country: | the 8th AF claimed:
4th fg - 2 Me 163's
359th fg - 2 Me 163's
364th fg claimed - 1 Me 163
I have that these were all from P-51's
also nothing confirmed as to jet downings by any P-38 fg. unless someone would kindly direct me further on this
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Country: | whoa just got this in a timely fashion. 357th fg ace B. Winks e-mail addy who shot down a 262 on 15 January 45 right in order for this thread ........ I await his response....replies life is good !
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Country: | Are ther some gun cam footage of a Me-163 being downed?
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Country: | just wrote Bob a note and yes there is gun cam footage of the hind end of a Me 163 getting creamed by .50's. the 163 kills came from July 29, 44 to November 2, 44 when the 4th fg shot down 2 on that date.....
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