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07-23-2005, 09:25 PM
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Here's a little contribution to this thread from a British pilot in Burma -
He says that on the 15th January, 1944 "...we met them in equal strength and had a field day." - Gordon Conway.
Some flaws in the Japanese aviation; they generally attacked landing grounds as opposed to lines of communication. They fought individually. They had no armour. They never used cloud cover. They received no instruction when landing blind. They had no air-to-ground communication.
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07-25-2005, 01:38 PM
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#17 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Aggie08 Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D If you look further back through the site history you'll find that A) We once had a Japanese member and B) It wasn't until recently that Japanese planes have been "bashed".
We all recognise the strength's and weakness' of Japanese planes. I think it was well discussed in the A6M2 vs. Spitfire IIA discussion, actually. | I've been on the forum for a few months and I didn't see anything positive about them, I'll take a look at that discussion. | We are not going to say somethign positive just to say soemthing positive. Thats like praising the Fiesler Storch as the greatest fighter plane to see service in WW2. We give credit where it is due.
__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-25-2005, 02:37 PM
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07-25-2005, 03:24 PM
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#19 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-25-2005, 04:34 PM
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07-25-2005, 04:36 PM
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#21 | | He who does not skim
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07-26-2005, 01:12 AM
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__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
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07-26-2005, 09:16 AM
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__________________  http://www.vg-photo.com Wherever their bones may lie, the courage of heroes is consecrated in the hearts and engraved in the history of the free. Lt Col Honner DSO MC, 39th Commander speaking of the dead from the battle of Kokoda. | |
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07-28-2005, 06:50 AM
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#24 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-28-2005, 10:11 PM
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Country: | See, thats basically what I was looking for. I was looking for more in-depth discussion but this is fine, just shows that in this forum most people do not favor Japanese planes. Case closed.
__________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..."
Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group 
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07-28-2005, 11:25 PM
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#26 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Hey, I volunteer at a WWII aviation museum that has one of the 2 Zeroes that are still flying. I like that old bird for it's history, but I have seen it and a hellcat fly at the same time and I can tell you, it is abundant clear which aircraft is the better of the 2. Not only watching them fly together, but having pulled cowlings and panels off to get underneath, it is clear which plane was made to survive.
Very early in the war, the Zero had an almost mystical reputation that was finally proven unwarranted. It was a good fighter, early in the war. I would not have ever called it great at any time though.
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07-29-2005, 01:44 AM
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Country: | It wasn't a good fighter though, it was just shrouded with mystery.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. | |
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07-31-2005, 03:35 PM
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#28 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | That is what most of us are saying. Sorry Aggie but we are not going to say the Zero was the greatest thing to taxi down a runway and take off. We give the aircraft credit where it is due though.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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08-07-2005, 12:26 AM
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Country: | I'm not looking to glorify it. It's just that American and European birds get more coverage here. I think that I got caught up in the early war mystery of the Zero and was surprised as to why it didn't receive more attention. No worries.
__________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..."
Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group
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08-07-2005, 07:58 AM
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#30 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | No problem. Feel free to start up threads about Japanese aviation if you would like. Everyone here has no problem discussing it.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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