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Old 06-28-2005, 10:54 AM   #106
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I am surprised he took off since he had no instrument readings. Dumb pilot. This goes back to the other thread where you commented on pilots thinking they are experts.
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Old 06-28-2005, 05:23 PM   #107
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I am surprised he took off since he had no instrument readings. Dumb pilot. This goes back to the other thread where you commented on pilots thinking they are experts.

My understanding is this It was nighttime and had a flashlight preflight. The tape was on the underside of the fusalageand and the tape color was very close to the paint color. The tape was covering a static air pressure port that affected several instruments and the instruments gave readings but they were not only lagged but variable. The readings were consistent between the instruments so it wasn't very obvious. Also as the altitude and speed increased the problems increased. I agree he should have returned immediately but the pressure is enormous to keep the schedule and the problem wasn't that apparent early on. That aircraft out of an airport in South America would only have cost $80,000/$100,000 to turn around if they found the tape and got it into the air in 30min or so. In the continental US it could rum into the millions as it would dissrupt schedules all over the country. They thought they had a very minor problem and made the wrong choice.

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Old 06-29-2005, 09:53 AM   #108
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Still in my opinion no excuse that is why the whole crew does pre flights.
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Most of the time the Captain makes the first officer do the pre-flight. At bare minimum, one of the pilots should of noticed the pitot tube was covered. The bigger problem is the pitot tube on many airliners has additional sensors that give indications to other instruments and systems.
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:53 AM   #110
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I like the system that we use in the Army. First us Crew Chiefs go out and preflight it about an hour before the pilots come out. Then they preflight it after us, both pilots that is. Sometimes things still get missed because we are human but in the overall point of view I can honestly say I never flew an aircraft that I felt unsafe in or was unsure about.
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