The Slowest Plane of WW2? - Aircraft of World War II

Pisis · 04-21-2006, 08:36 AM

According to my brain database, it was the Rescue Boat Consolidated PBY Catalina.
Depending on engine equipement, its maximum speed was 314km/h at 2290m, 329km/h at 3000m and the cruise speed was 208km/h at 3050m.
But what was the slowest fighter and the slowest bobmer in World War II?

Sources:
www.military.cz/usa/air/war/other/pby/pby_en.htm
http://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/catalina.htm

plan_D · 04-21-2006, 08:41 AM

They'd have been slower planes than the Catalina, if we're talking maximum speed. But generally all planes go around the same speed at 0 MPH when they're sat on the ground not doing anything.

lesofprimus · 04-21-2006, 08:41 AM

I would think the Storch was slower than the PBY.....

Pisis · 04-21-2006, 09:02 AM

Maybe, but planes like Storch, Piper "Primus" Cub, etc. were currier planes anyway. I mean combat planes...

plan_D · 04-21-2006, 09:23 AM

Well, you said 'slowest plane' , indicating any plane of World War II. You actually mean planes that carried weapons and were used in active, engaging the enemy, combat ?

KraziKanuK · 04-21-2006, 09:39 AM

The question was: But what was the slowest fighter and the slowest bobmer in World War II?

I see no 'edit' for the post.

plan_D · 04-21-2006, 09:42 AM

The title was "The Slowest Plane of WW2?" which is a question in itself. And then he went on to state that the PBY was the slowest, which was an answer to his own question that we're disputing.

Pisis · 04-21-2006, 09:51 AM

Oh my god, planD...

Can't you read?
"...But what was the slowest fighter and the slowest bomber in World War II?"
BTW, PBY was also a combat plane, sinking 37 U-boats during the WWII...

plan_D · 04-21-2006, 10:01 AM

When you title something with a question, it's a question. Or don't either of you understand simple English? And question mark indicates a question, funnily enough. You made a question in the title and answered it with the PBY, and both Dan and I disputed the title question/answer. Or are both of you too stupid to understand simple conversation?

And where did I dispute that the PBY was not a combat aircraft? What land or planet do you live in because it's becoming increasingly more difficult to believe that you live in the same one as the rest of us. Stop smoking that **** Pisis, and step back to reality.

Wurger · 04-21-2006, 10:02 AM

I think that PZL P-7a could be as the slowest fighter.
Its max. speed at 0m altitude - 276 km/h, at 4000m - 327km/h, at 6000m - 309 km/h.The cruise speed - 285 km/h
The slowest bomber name could go to PZL P-23A/B Karas.Its max. speed at 0m - 263/274 km/h, at 3000m - 304/319 km/h.The cruise speed - 230/270 km/h.
But I could be wrong.

Jabberwocky · 04-21-2006, 10:36 AM

My vote for the slowest bomber would be the Po-2/U-2

Originally built as a transport/utility, it was used by the Russians in vast numbers as a light night harrasment bomber, it was usually fitted with a pair of 120kg bombs or (occasionally) 4 RS-82 rockets.

Flown by the famous 'night witches', female combat pilots in VVS service, the Russians had a serise of nicknames for it, including 'lawnmover', 'grasscutter' and 'sewing machine'.

The Po-2 was powered by a 5 cylinder radial that produced barely more than 100 hp. Night bombing runs would often be made with the engine switched off, gliding in towards the target area, and then releasing the bombs onto the unsuspecting enemy position.

And the maximum speed? Just 155 kph/98mph!

Reportedly, when a Po-2 was spotted they were quite difficult to shoot down. The planes were so slow and nimble that they drove German pilots in the faster and far more powerful 190s and 109s into fits just trying to engage a target doing less than 1/3 their velocity.

FLYBOYJ · 04-21-2006, 10:54 AM

The Storch, hands down!!!!

evangilder · 04-21-2006, 11:07 AM

Agreed, Joe. And the Storch wasn't just a courier airplane.

KraziKanuK · 04-21-2006, 11:30 AM

The one that has an English comprehesion problem is you pD for Pisis went on in the text of his post and further qualified what his was asking for in his thread title.

Yes the Po-2 was slow but so was the 'Stringbags'.

Twitch · 04-21-2006, 01:32 PM

Pisis is saying FIGHTER and BOMBER and the PO-2 and Storch were neither.

04-21-2006, 08:41 AM	#2
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	They'd have been slower planes than the Catalina, if we're talking maximum speed. But generally all planes go around the same speed at 0 MPH when they're sat on the ground not doing anything. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

04-21-2006, 08:41 AM	#3
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,500	I would think the Storch was slower than the PBY..... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

04-21-2006, 09:02 AM	#4
Pisis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Praga Mater Urbium Posts: 5,859	Maybe, but planes like Storch, Piper "Primus" Cub, etc. were currier planes anyway. I mean combat planes... __________________ "He's a menace to himself and everything else in the air... yes, birds too." - Airplane! Memory of Nation Why Did Hitler Want Czechoslovakia WW2 Was A War That Had To Be Fought! What Really Happened in Israel? Children of Hamas

04-21-2006, 09:23 AM	#5
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	Well, you said 'slowest plane' , indicating any plane of World War II. You actually mean planes that carried weapons and were used in active, engaging the enemy, combat ? __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

04-21-2006, 09:42 AM	#7
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	The title was "The Slowest Plane of WW2?" which is a question in itself. And then he went on to state that the PBY was the slowest, which was an answer to his own question that we're disputing. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

04-21-2006, 09:39 AM	#6
KraziKanuK Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 795	The question was: But what was the slowest fighter and the slowest bobmer in World War II? I see no 'edit' for the post.

04-21-2006, 09:51 AM	#8
Pisis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Praga Mater Urbium Posts: 5,859	Oh my god, planD... Can't you read? "...But what was the slowest fighter and the slowest bomber in World War II?" BTW, PBY was also a combat plane, sinking 37 U-boats during the WWII... __________________ "He's a menace to himself and everything else in the air... yes, birds too." - Airplane! Memory of Nation Why Did Hitler Want Czechoslovakia WW2 Was A War That Had To Be Fought! What Really Happened in Israel? Children of Hamas

04-21-2006, 10:01 AM	#9
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	When you title something with a question, it's a question. Or don't either of you understand simple English? And question mark indicates a question, funnily enough. You made a question in the title and answered it with the PBY, and both Dan and I disputed the title question/answer. Or are both of you too stupid to understand simple conversation? And where did I dispute that the PBY was not a combat aircraft? What land or planet do you live in because it's becoming increasingly more difficult to believe that you live in the same one as the rest of us. Stop smoking that **** Pisis, and step back to reality. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club. Last edited by plan_D; 04-21-2006 at 10:05 AM.

04-21-2006, 10:02 AM	#10
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	I think that PZL P-7a could be as the slowest fighter. Its max. speed at 0m altitude - 276 km/h, at 4000m - 327km/h, at 6000m - 309 km/h.The cruise speed - 285 km/h The slowest bomber name could go to PZL P-23A/B Karas.Its max. speed at 0m - 263/274 km/h, at 3000m - 304/319 km/h.The cruise speed - 230/270 km/h. But I could be wrong. __________________

04-21-2006, 10:36 AM	#11
Jabberwocky Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 494	My vote for the slowest bomber would be the Po-2/U-2 Originally built as a transport/utility, it was used by the Russians in vast numbers as a light night harrasment bomber, it was usually fitted with a pair of 120kg bombs or (occasionally) 4 RS-82 rockets. Flown by the famous 'night witches', female combat pilots in VVS service, the Russians had a serise of nicknames for it, including 'lawnmover', 'grasscutter' and 'sewing machine'. The Po-2 was powered by a 5 cylinder radial that produced barely more than 100 hp. Night bombing runs would often be made with the engine switched off, gliding in towards the target area, and then releasing the bombs onto the unsuspecting enemy position. And the maximum speed? Just 155 kph/98mph! Reportedly, when a Po-2 was spotted they were quite difficult to shoot down. The planes were so slow and nimble that they drove German pilots in the faster and far more powerful 190s and 109s into fits just trying to engage a target doing less than 1/3 their velocity.

04-21-2006, 10:54 AM	#12
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,050	The Storch, hands down!!!! __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

04-21-2006, 11:07 AM	#13
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,807	Agreed, Joe. And the Storch wasn't just a courier airplane. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

04-21-2006, 11:30 AM	#14
KraziKanuK Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 795	The one that has an English comprehesion problem is you pD for Pisis went on in the text of his post and further qualified what his was asking for in his thread title. Yes the Po-2 was slow but so was the 'Stringbags'.

04-21-2006, 01:32 PM	#15
Twitch Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: City of the Angels California Posts: 809	Pisis is saying FIGHTER and BOMBER and the PO-2 and Storch were neither. __________________

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