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Old 02-22-2005, 03:32 PM   #31
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and about the spit escort thing, even if the spit could escort the bombers to berlin, she wasn;t suited to nightfighting, whislt she was used in the role occassionlly she wasn't suited to it.................
While the Hurricane was used as a nightfighter, the Spitfire wasn't
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The mustang was a pretty unremarkable plane until fitted with the Merlin. The Merlin powered Mustangs didn't get into the war until 1943. The Spitfire became operational in 1938, 5 full years before the Merlin Mustang. The Spitfire was a great aircraft, and paired with the Hurricane, did a great job in the BoB.
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It was a problem with night landings, the Spitfire's undercarriage wasn't as stable but the Hurricane wouldn't be totalled if it veered of the runway
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:12 PM   #34
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but she was used in the role occassionally, i've seen a corgi model of one in night fighter scheme and it gave a brief history of the type's service history............
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:24 PM   #35
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Just cos its a model it doesnt mean its real...
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Old 02-23-2005, 04:05 PM   #36
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By the way, did Spitfire participate in any escorting role during the bombing in Berlin????

Why didnt Britian send Spitfire to escort Lancaster to Germany?
In the early days of escorting bombers the Spitfires were used for the initial and final legs of escort duties say from England to the mid France/German border. This let the P-38/P51 escorts utilize their fuel better. The difference between the cruise speeds of the fighters about 230mph for max range and the bombers about 180mph required a manuver called the S-weave or S-turn for the fighters ti maintain position.
The 38/51s could fly straight and meet up with the bomber stream at the point the Spitfires/P-47s had to turn back.

This was a tactic that was even more effective after the fighters were able to break off from the bombere on their way home to attack/straff anywhere they could find the enemy.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:53 PM   #37
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btw The Spit XIV did shoot down jets. It was the 1st Prop Fighter to shoot down a 262.

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Really? I thought that title belonged to the P-47...
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No, I read it in a iclke bookie somewhere. I'll find it later and quote from it

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btw The Spit XIV did shoot down jets. It was the 1st Prop Fighter to shoot down a 262.

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That is debatable.

The first Spit to get a 262 was some MK IXs from RCAF 401. This was W.Nr. 170093 flown by Hptm. H-C Buttmann on Oct 4 1944.

On Aug 28 1944, 2 P-47s of the 78th FG attacked Ofw. H Lauer's 262 but he had to crash land due to running out of fuel. (claimed shared by Myers and Croy)
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Well that story of the P-47's is the one ive heard...This claim better be good HS!
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Still looking for the book, but here ya go:

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?EST-72263

...........also read all the 1st post here, m8:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID27/4333.html

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Well I'll take what is written in the Classic 262 series before what is said on some modelling and/or gaming site.

What unit was this XIV, supposed 262 killer, from? On what date was the kill made? Some basics are missing from the claim.
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That at the moment I couldn't tell ya, m8. But I'll hunt for that book later on.

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The Spitfire's range was average at best. It was an Interceptor, not an Escort.
According to the data on this website http://www.supermarine-spitfire.co.uk/perfdata.html The Mk V111 Spit had a range of 1,180miles, whereas the Mk X1 had a range of 2,000 miles, which if correct gave these Marks of Spitfire almost as great a range as the P51D.

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