Is Spitfire really the BEST British fighter??? - Page 3 - Aircraft of World War II

redcoat · 02-22-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass

and about the spit escort thing, even if the spit could escort the bombers to berlin, she wasn;t suited to nightfighting, whislt she was used in the role occassionlly she wasn't suited to it.................

While the Hurricane was used as a nightfighter, the Spitfire wasn't

evangilder · 02-22-2005, 04:59 PM

The mustang was a pretty unremarkable plane until fitted with the Merlin. The Merlin powered Mustangs didn't get into the war until 1943. The Spitfire became operational in 1938, 5 full years before the Merlin Mustang. The Spitfire was a great aircraft, and paired with the Hurricane, did a great job in the BoB.

mosquitoman · 02-22-2005, 08:05 PM

It was a problem with night landings, the Spitfire's undercarriage wasn't as stable but the Hurricane wouldn't be totalled if it veered of the runway

the lancaster kicks ass · 02-23-2005, 02:12 PM

but she was used in the role occassionally, i've seen a corgi model of one in night fighter scheme and it gave a brief history of the type's service history............

cheddar cheese · 02-23-2005, 04:24 PM

Just cos its a model it doesnt mean its real...

wmaxt · 02-23-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiron

By the way, did Spitfire participate in any escorting role during the bombing in Berlin????

Why didnt Britian send Spitfire to escort Lancaster to Germany?

In the early days of escorting bombers the Spitfires were used for the initial and final legs of escort duties say from England to the mid France/German border. This let the P-38/P51 escorts utilize their fuel better. The difference between the cruise speeds of the fighters about 230mph for max range and the bombers about 180mph required a manuver called the S-weave or S-turn for the fighters ti maintain position.
The 38/51s could fly straight and meet up with the bomber stream at the point the Spitfires/P-47s had to turn back.

This was a tactic that was even more effective after the fighters were able to break off from the bombere on their way home to attack/straff anywhere they could find the enemy.

Hot Space · 02-24-2005, 04:53 PM

btw The Spit XIV did shoot down jets. It was the 1st Prop Fighter to shoot down a 262.

Hot Space

cheddar cheese · 02-24-2005, 04:55 PM

Really? I thought that title belonged to the P-47...

Hot Space · 02-24-2005, 05:02 PM

No, I read it in a iclke bookie somewhere. I'll find it later and quote from it

Hot Space

KraziKanuK · 02-24-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Space

btw The Spit XIV did shoot down jets. It was the 1st Prop Fighter to shoot down a 262.

Hot Space

That is debatable.

The first Spit to get a 262 was some MK IXs from RCAF 401. This was W.Nr. 170093 flown by Hptm. H-C Buttmann on Oct 4 1944.

On Aug 28 1944, 2 P-47s of the 78th FG attacked Ofw. H Lauer's 262 but he had to crash land due to running out of fuel. (claimed shared by Myers and Croy)

cheddar cheese · 02-24-2005, 05:25 PM

Well that story of the P-47's is the one ive heard...This claim better be good HS!

Hot Space · 02-24-2005, 08:27 PM

Still looking for the book, but here ya go:

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?EST-72263

...........also read all the 1st post here, m8:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID27/4333.html

Hot Space

KraziKanuK · 02-25-2005, 05:30 AM

Well I'll take what is written in the Classic 262 series before what is said on some modelling and/or gaming site.

What unit was this XIV, supposed 262 killer, from? On what date was the kill made? Some basics are missing from the claim.

Hot Space · 02-25-2005, 07:46 AM

That at the moment I couldn't tell ya, m8. But I'll hunt for that book later on.

Hot Space

Andrew · 02-25-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cheddar cheese

The Spitfire's range was average at best. It was an Interceptor, not an Escort.

According to the data on this website http://www.supermarine-spitfire.co.uk/perfdata.html The Mk V111 Spit had a range of 1,180miles, whereas the Mk X1 had a range of 2,000 miles, which if correct gave these Marks of Spitfire almost as great a range as the P51D.

02-22-2005, 04:59 PM	#32
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,809	The mustang was a pretty unremarkable plane until fitted with the Merlin. The Merlin powered Mustangs didn't get into the war until 1943. The Spitfire became operational in 1938, 5 full years before the Merlin Mustang. The Spitfire was a great aircraft, and paired with the Hurricane, did a great job in the BoB. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

02-22-2005, 08:05 PM	#33
mosquitoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saffron Walden/Sheffield Posts: 2,991	It was a problem with night landings, the Spitfire's undercarriage wasn't as stable but the Hurricane wouldn't be totalled if it veered of the runway __________________ When you realise that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually an oncoming train, you know it's time to run for your life

02-23-2005, 02:12 PM	#34
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	but she was used in the role occassionally, i've seen a corgi model of one in night fighter scheme and it gave a brief history of the type's service history............ __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

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02-23-2005, 04:24 PM	#35
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Just cos its a model it doesnt mean its real...

02-24-2005, 04:53 PM	#37
Hot Space Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,172	btw The Spit XIV did shoot down jets. It was the 1st Prop Fighter to shoot down a 262. Hot Space

02-24-2005, 04:55 PM	#38
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Really? I thought that title belonged to the P-47...

02-24-2005, 05:02 PM	#39
Hot Space Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,172	No, I read it in a iclke bookie somewhere. I'll find it later and quote from it Hot Space

02-24-2005, 05:25 PM	#41
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Well that story of the P-47's is the one ive heard...This claim better be good HS!

02-24-2005, 08:27 PM	#42
Hot Space Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,172	Still looking for the book, but here ya go: http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?EST-72263 ...........also read all the 1st post here, m8: http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID27/4333.html Hot Space

02-25-2005, 05:30 AM	#43
KraziKanuK Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 795	Well I'll take what is written in the Classic 262 series before what is said on some modelling and/or gaming site. What unit was this XIV, supposed 262 killer, from? On what date was the kill made? Some basics are missing from the claim.

02-25-2005, 07:46 AM	#44
Hot Space Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,172	That at the moment I couldn't tell ya, m8. But I'll hunt for that book later on. Hot Space