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02-26-2005, 07:29 PM
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#62 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass and i don't think they're the stats for the Mk.XIV, and that pic's of a Mk.22/24............. | Ahh..you're wrong. The Pic is a Spit XVIII.
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02-26-2005, 07:37 PM
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| The Spitfire had two 0.5in machine guns and two 20mm cannons. It was a great fighter. it really packed a punch.  | |
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02-26-2005, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BountyHunter15 The Spitfire had an armament consisting of two forward firing 20mm cannons and two 50 cal. machine guns in the leading edges of the wing. It also had a bomb/rocket load of 500lb. It had a maximum speed of 448mph and and could climb up to 20,000ft in about 7 minutes.It was powered by one Rolls-Royce Griffon 65 12-cylinder Vee engine. | According to Spitfire: the History, the Mk XVIII could carry 3x 500lb GP bombs. | |
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02-26-2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BountyHunter15 The Spitfire had two 0.5in machine guns and two 20mm cannons. It was a great fighter. it really packed a punch. | I'd rather have 6 x .50's. The Hispano was too prone to jamming until very late in the war, and if the 20mm on one side jammed, its mate on the other side was nearly useless in the Spitfire (unlike the .50's where the plane could be trimmed to handle it). This is one of the big reasons they decided to mount the two .50's on the later Spitfires - they didn't want to be toothless in battle.
See the attached doc below where the Hurc IIc suffers 3 of 4 gun jams.
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02-27-2005, 05:21 AM
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02-27-2005, 01:48 PM
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#67 | | Master of Ewes
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02-28-2005, 12:43 AM
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#68 | | | My point is that earlier in the war the 20mm cannon of all sides, except the ShVAK, were somewhat unreliable. As the war progressed they became increasingly reliable. By the end of the war the Hispano supposedly had a 1:1500 rounds fired stoppage rate, the MG151/20 was about the same, the BMG was about 1:4000 rounds. These stoppage rates do not include guns that froze.
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02-28-2005, 03:30 PM
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#69 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | a gun freezing over (although it's normally the lubricating oil that freezes i believe), is a pretty major promlem in the air though..............
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02-28-2005, 03:39 PM
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02-28-2005, 03:41 PM
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#71 | | Master of Ewes
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02-28-2005, 03:44 PM
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02-28-2005, 03:47 PM
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#73 | | Master of Ewes
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02-28-2005, 03:52 PM
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02-28-2005, 07:01 PM
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#75 | | | I only pointed out that the stoppage rate figures I've given exclude cases where the guns froze, which was considered a different issue.
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