Su-5: 500mph Soviet prototype fighter - Aircraft of World War II

claidemore · 01-07-2009, 03:03 PM

Found this interesting plane while web browsing this morn.

Intended as a temporary counter to the Me262, it was quite a bit faster than the Ta152. It reached 495 mph at low alt, and was projected to reach 503mph at alt. Typical soviet armament of one NS23 and two 12.7 UBs.

Sukhoi Company (JSC) - Airplanes - Museum - Su-5
Sukhoi Su-5 (I-107) - experimental interceptor

Chocks away! · 01-07-2009, 03:43 PM

The picture you posted is actually a Mig-13.

Notable are the little ajustable doors on the booster nozzle!

drgondog · 01-07-2009, 05:34 PM

By far the ugliest WWII fighter I have ever seen..

Venganza · 01-07-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by drgondog

By far the ugliest WWII fighter I have ever seen..

Went like a bat out of Hell, though! The top speed, with the turbine running may have been as high as 513mph. The Mig-13 was also known as the I-250. The piston engine ran the compressor for the small turbine engine in the tail, like the Caproni-Campini plane of 1940. This plane went into small-scale production (10-50 examples) and it may have gone into service, but Russian sources differ over this. It was too late for the Great Patriotic War (WWII). Below is a picture of the Su-5, which was very similar and designed to the same requirement. Not exactly any great beauty, either.

Venganza

Graeme · 01-07-2009, 08:35 PM

(From Air international July 1976)

Venganza · 01-07-2009, 09:10 PM

Great job, Graeme! Thank you from a Soviet aviation buff.

Venganza

claidemore · 01-08-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocks away!

The picture you posted is actually a Mig-13.

Notable are the little ajustable doors on the booster nozzle!

Oops, yer right. I had a little trouble attaching the Su5 photo and ended up putting the I-250 in by mistake. Fortunately Vengaza has posted the correct photo. Glad to see another Soviet aviation buff.

I wonder, do we have an "Ugliest fighter of WWII" thread?

Actually, in a side view, the Su-5 ain't all that bad. Sorta. lol And check out the top view profile, the laminar flow wing outline looks vaugely familiar.

Graeme · 01-08-2009, 07:05 AM

Sukhoi's original design which eventually led to the Su-5. Looks a little less "cigar shaped"...

Thorlifter · 01-08-2009, 09:45 AM

In the 3 way drawing Graeme posted, the front of it looks like a fat P51-B. Very interesting find, Claidemore.

Venganza · 01-08-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Sukhoi's original design which eventually led to the Su-5. Looks a little less "cigar shaped"...

I kind of looks like a LaGG-3 on steroids.

Venganza

beaupower32 · 01-08-2009, 06:02 PM

The wings in the top view remind me of the P-40. Just the way it looks. But yes also the front end looks like the P-51B in a weird way.

01-07-2009, 03:03 PM	#1
claidemore Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 497	Su-5: 500mph Soviet prototype fighter Found this interesting plane while web browsing this morn. Intended as a temporary counter to the Me262, it was quite a bit faster than the Ta152. It reached 495 mph at low alt, and was projected to reach 503mph at alt. Typical soviet armament of one NS23 and two 12.7 UBs. Sukhoi Company (JSC) - Airplanes - Museum - Su-5 Sukhoi Su-5 (I-107) - experimental interceptor __________________ Last edited by claidemore; 01-08-2009 at 01:27 AM. Reason: oops wrong photo

01-07-2009, 03:43 PM	#2
Chocks away! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cyprus Posts: 336	The picture you posted is actually a Mig-13. Notable are the little ajustable doors on the booster nozzle! __________________ And now for something completely different...

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Venganza Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 386	Great job, Graeme! Thank you from a Soviet aviation buff. Venganza __________________ "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever." -Spinal Tap

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Thorlifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 4,346	In the 3 way drawing Graeme posted, the front of it looks like a fat P51-B. Very interesting find, Claidemore. __________________

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beaupower32 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 721	The wings in the top view remind me of the P-40. Just the way it looks. But yes also the front end looks like the P-51B in a weird way. __________________ The four elements: Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Of these, I call your attention to two: Air and Fire. Though it is your privilege to live in the air, you will die by fire.

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drgondog Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 3,944	By far the ugliest WWII fighter I have ever seen..

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Graeme Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,081	Sukhoi's original design which eventually led to the Su-5. Looks a little less "cigar shaped"...

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