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Old 01-30-2005, 01:34 AM   #76
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Wow really? I know the TB-3 was big but not bigger than a Sunderland, thats interesting.
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Old 01-30-2005, 10:53 AM   #77
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There's a lot of info on U-Boats at www.uboat.net, the aircraft section there is also very good
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:20 AM   #78
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i was refering to weight..............
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:41 AM   #79
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Then why didnt you say weight...
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because i wasn't expecting him to say what he did, i was quoting a RAF coastal command video.............
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Hmmmmmmmmm....
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Prior to WWII, a Japanese delegation was in England and was shown through the Short Bros. factories....this did eventually lead to the 'Mavis' seaplane, in fact they also went through Supermarine too, because the 'Emily' was also a product of Japanese observation of other country's manufacturing prowess and products...- I don't have the book on hand now, it was a library one, but I have read about this, LG....
They have an adept ability, do the Japanese, to observe, even acquire, and copy, virtually anything....- As I've posted before, they learned the American tactics to attack Pearl Harbour, from US Naval exercises in 1933, and that also gave them the naval Aircraft-Carrier, which they used to such great effect, something Germany never really cottoned-on to...
Their Industrial strength and savvy was again illustrated in the post-war era, when they were allowed to re-generate their Business and Industry, and take-on manufacturing giants like the US, particuarly with their cars and motorcycles, and in virtually all industries, especially electronics....

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Further to my post on the first page, the U-boat that apparently landed here in New Zealand in 1944, was carrying a Nazi War Criminal, his wife and 3 children...Also, they allegedly had, plundered Nazi gold, jewellery and paintings...this was endorsed on the TV program, by a Leo Orphan, who was with British Intelligence...
I haven't as yet discovered the U-boat's serial No., there are apparently 55 U-boats still unaccounted for, but there may be a connection here to U-862, which is noted for action in the Indian Ocean, and for shooting-down a P-38 in Singapore Harbour during the War.- U-862 was known to have been re-fuelled by a mothership in Antartic waters, was sighted in Napier Harbour [a city on the East coast of NZ's North Island,] and then again in Aussie's Sydney Harbour...- Since the U-boats tended to operate in groups, this may have been a Southern Hemisphere Group, operating against the Allies in the Pacific area, as it is well known they had some successes in Australasian waters...- This one that landed in NZ is apparently in 5-6 fathoms deep, parallel to the shore, but just out off the breakwater line, and quite a difficult spot to get-to. The chap whose hunting it, his father was originally into or aware of the whole business, but the TV Channel covering-it has indicated we'll all be kept posted about developments....this is all I've been able to find-out since my first post........Can anyone gain any leads from this ????......
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Gemhorse, the Japanese learned of the effectiveness of an attack on a harbour from the British Swordfish raid on Taranto. Yamamotos chief of staff was present at the time of the raid...

This U-Boat story is getting really interesting. I watched a programme on nothing to do with U-Boats yesterday, but it was to do with raiders of the Kriegsmarine. Merchant vessels with guns covered, would show themselves as a certain ship that would be in the area then attack when getting close. They had amazing success, and one (Atlantis) captured a report on British positions in Asia. Which lead to the sudden strike of the Japanese against Singapore.
In the report it had said that if the Japanese realise how weak Britain really is in the Pacific they will take advantage straight away...

...I just felt like telling that little story.
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a U-boot gets it...........
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U-862 - Type IXD2
Laid Down - 15 Aug, 1942
Commissioned - 7 Oct, 1943
Commander - KrvKpt. Heinrich Timm (Knights Cross)
Career - 2 Patrols
Kills - 7 Ships, total of 42.374 tons

Became IJN I502 when captured at Singapore on 6th May 1945, laid down as I502 on the 15th July 1945. Scuttled 13 Feb, 1946.

Also downed a RAF Catalina Sqn. 265/H
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125 aircraft shot down by 97 individual U-boats for the loss of 31 U-boats either sunk during the attack or due to being located by other forces shortly afterwards and sunk.
Just for the success for aircraft against U-Boats.

http://www.uboat.net/history/aircraf...ortby=squadron
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the U-boot pic is of U-849 being sunk by a PBY Liberator
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U-118 being clobbered by a/c of the USS Bogue
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very nice pics............
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The Bogue was the most successful of the Jeep carriers in terms of hunting U-Boats wasn't it?
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