The Ta-152.... The Best High Altitude Fighter?????

[Erich]

Gentlemen :

JG 302 the I. gruppe which Willi was flying in had the Bf 109G-6 as standard equipment from March 44 till end of August 44 before disbandment, the unit never had G-6/AS

Roman thank you for the enlarged photo that came the other day of Willi's 109, been busy on my JG 301 book

E ` back to it ............ some exciting stuff ahead folk !

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Erich

Gentlemen :

JG 302 the I. gruppe which Willi was flying in had the Bf 109G-6 as standard equipment from March 44 till end of August 44 before disbandment, the unit never had G-6/AS

Roman thank you for the enlarged photo that came the other day of Willi's 109, been busy on my JG 301 book

E ` back to it ............ some exciting stuff ahead folk !

Erich,

thanks for you message. So it must have been really G-6, because:
-your database says I./JG302 was equiped by G-6
-Willi says in this book the same
-Adler has recognized these identifying bulges (Beulen)

I´m sorry for this mess but the bulges are really very hard to recognize

Roman

P.S. take a look at the discussion at LBB « Luftwaffe Bullet Board » Forum zur deutschen Luftfahrtgeschichte

[Erich]

Roman yes I just followed all the posts on Luftarchiv. There were no G-14 or G-14/AS or G-6/AS as I said in JG 302, the Geschwader was not flying much in the summer of 44 and disbanded with many Kameraden going into other single engine fighter units including JG 301, especially the new Fw 190A-8 equipped III./JG 301 Schwere Gruppe

good posting ..........

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[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by seesul

Hi Adler,

it´s very hard to recognize it but you´re maybe right !

Roman

No problem I had to look twice as well.

[seesul]

I don´t know guys, I should maybe create a new thread about this matter...
Take a look at this:

OK, weitere Spekulation....

Die Gruppe bekam im August ´44 auch Flugzeuge aus der Instandsetzung zurück,
daher währe es denkbar, dass da eine "normale G6" bereits auf "AS" umgebaut wurde.
Und dann sollte die Werknummer als "G6" weiter geführt worden sein, und taucht dann auch weiterhin als solche in den Bestandslisten auf.

Genaues könnten aber nur die Lebenslaufakten hergeben, und die sind ja bekanntlich nicht verfügbar.

Gruss
Hilmar

For those that don´t know speak German: the group get back in August 44 some overhauled A/C´s und they could be modified to AS version. But even after that modification the same Wrk.Nr can be still enlisted as normal G-6 version.... source: LBB « Luftwaffe Bullet Board » Forum zur deutschen Luftfahrtgeschichte

Nice weekend flyboys!

Roman

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Go ahead and start up a thread about it. Would be an interesting discussion probably.

[Soren]

The bulges on the 109 on the picture look like the bulges on later versions, such as the G-6/AS, G-14/AS, G-10 & K-4 - but obviously pictures can be decieving. To me it looks 100% like a G-6/AS though.

Is there a possibility that it was a G-10 ? I remember Willi talking about that they got some of these.

[Erich]

I'm here and then I am gone for awhile........

JG 302 was disbanded before the acceptance of AS bf 109's. as I said the personell was divided up between the Geschwaders and sent off with special emphasis to JG 301 whcih needed a revamp as they were dumbstruck wiped out due to attrition, during August into septembers end JG 301 was put on brand new Fw 190A-8's and A-9's.

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