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06-25-2005, 04:22 PM
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#16 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | Lanc can interpet the above as he sees fit....
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06-26-2005, 03:27 AM
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#17 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | this is still a matter of opinion, and in my opinion, it was a different plane......
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06-26-2005, 08:15 AM
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#18 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | If Kurt Tank and The Luftwaffe Hierachy, as well as all the historical documentation, all say that the Ta 152 series was directly related to, and a natural development of, the Fw 190, I dont really see where an opinion is needed.
Its a fact Lanc.... I dont think Ive ever seen u so stubborn before.......
But......
U never did answer my question Lanc... Quote: |
Was the Fw-190A-8 a completely different plane than the Fw-190D-9???
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06-26-2005, 10:13 AM
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#19 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes, it was a different plane, but at the same time it wasn't because it carried the same designation, and i never said the -152 and -190 weren't related, because i know they are, i know they're almost exactly the same plane and that there's more differences between the -190A and -190D than there is between the -190D and -152, but the fact remains that it carried a different designation, to me, that makes it a different plane................
and the reason i'm being so stubborn is because i feel so strongly about it.......
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06-26-2005, 11:10 AM
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#20 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | OK whatever... Quote: |
but the fact remains that it carried a different designation,
| Out of respect for its designer Quote: |
yes, it was a different plane, but at the same time it wasn't because it carried the same designation
| If u think thats true then I do not doubt that u think the 190D and the Ta-152 are different...
, not because it was a different plane.....
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06-26-2005, 12:17 PM
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#21 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | sorry i meant to say "yes, it was the same plane, but at the same time it wasn't because it carried a different designation", not "yes, it was a different plane, but at the same time it wasn't because it carried the same designation"
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06-26-2005, 12:22 PM
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#22 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | So just because something has a different name makes it totally different? If I changed my name tomorrow to Micheal DeLaney would that make me a different person? 
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06-26-2005, 12:24 PM
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#23 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | it would make you different because you have a different name, and i never said it was a completely different plane..............
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06-26-2005, 12:27 PM
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#24 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | It wouldnt make me a different person...Different yes, different person, no...
In your poll the option is "completely different because of the designation..."
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06-26-2005, 03:38 PM
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| Both the P-51H and P-47M/N were redesigned down to the last stringer and brace but the basic design is still the same. With the P-47s new wings were added - essentialy the same mods as the Fw-190/Ta-152.
With the Fw-190 I feel there is more of a change going from radial to the inline engine than to a better wing/altitude configuration.
I have read in a couple of places it was to Honor/Recognize Kirt Tank.
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06-26-2005, 04:22 PM
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#26 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes that's why it was done, but i still feel that as it's been given a different designation it's a different plane........
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06-26-2005, 10:47 PM
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#27 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | OK...... Someones spamming the vote........ No way THAT many people think the wrong idea....
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06-27-2005, 09:41 AM
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#28 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | it's only 5 against 4!!
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06-27-2005, 10:11 AM
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#29 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | 6 against 4 now...I think les is right...
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06-27-2005, 10:22 AM
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#30 | | Master of Ewes
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