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06-25-2005, 01:08 PM
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#1 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | Ta-152/Fw-190
What do you class it is, to you, is the Ta-152 the same as a Fw-190D, or, due to it's different designation, do you see it as a different plane??
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06-25-2005, 01:11 PM
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#2 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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06-25-2005, 01:55 PM
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#3 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Seeing how the Ta-152B and H were originallly named the Fw190Ra-2 and Ra-3, the choice is obvious... The Ta-152H was a high altitude version of the Fw-190Ra-3...
The 190Ra-2 incorporated the standard 190D wing, and used the Jumo 213 engine, basically making a longernosed 190D...
All they did was rename the planes out of respect for the designers, Tank and Messerschmitt.... (Ta and Me)
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06-25-2005, 02:01 PM
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06-25-2005, 02:25 PM
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#5 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | well i think that as it had a different designation it was a different plane....
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06-25-2005, 02:27 PM
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#6 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Even if that designation was given and applied after the aircraft was already airworthy??
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06-25-2005, 02:33 PM
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#7 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yup, different designation, some slight changes, different plane.......
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06-25-2005, 02:33 PM
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Country: | It wasnt designed from the outset to be a new plane...it was an existing plane re-designated...
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06-25-2005, 02:37 PM
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#9 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | so was the seafire, to me, they're different planes........
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06-25-2005, 02:40 PM
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Country: | The P-80 was redesignated F-80 after the war, still the same plane, simply redesignted to comply with new USAF designation systems...
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06-25-2005, 02:42 PM
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#11 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but the Ta-152 and -190D were slightly different......
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06-25-2005, 02:44 PM
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#12 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | But as les said, the Ta-152 was originally named as a 190, simply renamed to honor Kurt Tank.
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06-25-2005, 03:15 PM
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#13 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Was the Fw-190A-8 a completely different plane than the Fw-190D-9???
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06-25-2005, 04:09 PM
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#14 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Quoted from The Encyclopedia of Aircraft of WWII...........
"In 1944, the Reichluftfahrtministerium (German Air Ministry or RLM) decreed that all new fighter aircraft designations must include the chief designer's name. Thus was born the Ta 152, named for Kurt Tank, chief of design at the Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau G. m. b. H. Except for designation, the Ta 152 series is directly related to, and a natural development of, the Fw 190. It was probably the fastest and most capable production, propeller-driven, fighter fielded by Germany during World War II."
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06-25-2005, 04:16 PM
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Country: | That pretty much confirms it if you ask me.
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