Ta152-H1 uber-fighter?

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic

Why not fire more than one? One missile can be evaded, but that usually makes evading the 2nd missile nearly impossible.

Who's missiles were better????

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Lunatic

Well the Iraqis certainly did not have anything that compared, they had outdated Russian and French missles just like the aircraft that carried them and there crews were undertrained. The average Iraqi pilot recieved less then 50 flight hours a year in training. So you can not compare American Missles with Iraqi. Sorry cant do it that is already onesided. As for missles that are just as good or better I have already made a list of them in my other recent post including AMRAMM, which was made to replace the AIM-7.

I agree.

So what other missiles in the 60's-70's timeframe were better?

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[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

No I will agree with you that in 60's to 70's timeframe it was the best missle of its type. However I think the AIM-54 Pheonix was the best air to air missle period. Its only downfall was that only the F-14 Tomcat could fire it.

[lesofprimus]

The Phoenix was great for intercepting steady, unmanouverable aircraft at a set altitude...... In a multitude of targets, simulatneously.....

However, at a $1,000,000 dollars a shot, it was very expensive..... I have a whole book on the test firing of a 6 shot drone attack.....

It has been found that an agile fighter such as the Mig-29 type could successfully evade this missle with ease...

The AMRAMM is a much better weap in my opinion...

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The AMRAMM is a great weapon and very hard to shake.

[plan_D]

The Red Top was hard to shake, but only had a 7 mile range. Then, it is a short range missile, the sparrow was medium. The AIM-9 is short range and before the L, I believe inferior to the Red Top.

The British had the BAe Sky Flash in place of the Sparrow

Originally Posted by plan_D

The Red Top was hard to shake, but only had a 7 mile range. Then, it is a short range missile, the sparrow was medium. The AIM-9 is short range and before the L, I believe inferior to the Red Top.

The British had the BAe Sky Flash in place of the Sparrow

The Firestreak came out in 1958, had a minimum range just shy of 2 miles, a max range of about 5 miles. It weighted ~300 lbs.

The Redtop came out in 1964, had a 16.5 mile max. range and weighed 330 lbs.

The early Sidewinder AIM-9B entered service in 1956 and had a range of just 3 miles, but min range was extremely close. Various models were introduced at least through the D by the late 50's and the E by the mid 60's. This was followed by the G and H models in the early 70's, and then we get to more modern models. Range on the D & E verision is about 10 miles. Weight is only about 180 lbs, almost half that of the Redtop.

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[plan_D]

Weight of the missile means nothing, weight of the warhead does. The Red Top had a range of 7 miles. It wasn't until the 80s AIM-9Ls that they became superior to the Red Top missile.

The Firestreak doesn't need to be mentioned because it was soon replaced by the Red Top, as there were many faults with the Firestreak. Although they can be forgiven, being a 50s design.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

And how can really compare a short range missle to a medium or long range missle anyhow. Fighter in England and the United States carry both short and medium or long range so you really cant compare them.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

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[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

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[GermansRGeniuses]

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[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

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[evangilder]

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