 | Tank Busting Armaments... Whats The Best Setup???| Aviation Discuss Tank Busting Armaments... Whats The Best Setup??? in the World War II - Aviation forums; oh i'm sorry, when did i say 4x20mm would take out a tank?? oh i'm sorry, I DIDN'... |
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02-26-2005, 04:04 PM
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#196 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | oh i'm sorry, when did i say 4x20mm would take out a tank?? oh i'm sorry, I DIDN'T!! i said "4x20mm will suffice for "soft" targets", if you want a true british tankbuster take a hurricane Mk.IID..............
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02-26-2005, 04:46 PM
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02-26-2005, 05:57 PM
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| Americans have claimed that they can knock out Tigers with their 8x .50s fired from the P-47. Bounced them off the road surface into the belly, they did.
Don't know how they can claim doing so since the Tiger had a 1" steel belly. | |
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02-26-2005, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK Americans have claimed that they can knock out Tigers with their 8x .50s fired from the P-47. Bounced them off the road surface into the belly, they did.
Don't know how they can claim doing so since the Tiger had a 1" steel belly. | I'm rather dubious of this claim as well. It is well known that Tigers were regularly taken out by shooting the fuel trailer they often towed until they were on the front lines, but otherwise I think the chances are slim.
There are two ways the Tiger could be destroyed by such an attack. The first is that a hatch was left open underneath the tank (I'm not sure these were easily opened I think they were for emergency exit only). The other would be if a round bounced up and went up the downward facing exhaust pipe or into one of those downward facing louvers. Once inside under the armor in the engine compartment, it would bounce all over the place spewing 4000+ deg. F incendiary metal and the odds of a fuel fire/explosion would be quite good. I personally think this probably happened once or twice but it really is a fluke.
Another possibility is they just caught the tank unwares and the turret or drivers hatches were open and a round got inside.
Yet another possibility is that it was not really a Tiger. Some of the earlier German tanks (some of which were still in service) and especially armored cars had rather thin armor and could be destroyed by lots of .50 hits. Mis-identification of the type of tank was very common.
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02-26-2005, 10:35 PM
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Country:  | Destroying this....with a mg...? Kind of unrealistic. 
Returning to the reality nice guncamera of Typhoon in the clasical rocket-gun strafing attack. | |
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02-26-2005, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlesBronson Destroying this....with a mg...? Kind of unrealistic.
Returning to the reality nice guncamera of Typhoon in the clasical rocket-gun strafing attack. | Ahh but if you caught it by surprise driving along a road all opened up like that, it is not so unrealistic at all. Three seconds of fire (the minimum to button it up) from a P-47 delivers 300 rounds, and it only takes one or two getting loose inside the tank to rip the crew to shreads and quite possibly set off the ammo or start a fire. Buttoned up... I think it was possible but it was a fluke to bounce a round off a road and up through the exhaust pipe or cooling flutes. It certianly was not a reasonable expectation.
Most of the German tanks destroyed by strafing involved either a fuel cart being towed behind it or fuel cans stored on the exterior. Common practice for tanks moving up toward the front.
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02-27-2005, 12:25 PM
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02-27-2005, 01:25 PM
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02-28-2005, 11:24 AM
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02-28-2005, 02:37 PM
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Country:  | Lanc, thanks for the corection on the P-51 guns. A 1,000lb bomb could do well, but smaller bombs would do fine.
So why not, a fight of B-24s carpetbombing the line of armor? Follow it up with B-26, A-20, or mossies to get the stragglers
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02-28-2005, 02:56 PM
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02-28-2005, 03:06 PM
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02-28-2005, 03:07 PM
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#209 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | heavy bombers were not good destroyers of mobile armour, the tanks could easily get out of the way, best plan is to grand slam an area full of tanks, they'll all get flipped over...........
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02-28-2005, 04:03 PM
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