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Old 01-28-2007, 09:00 AM   #1
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U.S. aircraft in the Philippines, 1937-1942

In the 1980s, I did research on U.S. military aircraft in the Philippines and had a number of articles published. Pictures of these aircraft are relatively rare and the saga of how I got some of these could have "written" another article. I thought I'd share a few of them with you.

Clark Field, about 1938-39. Note the B-10s, P-26s, O-46s, and O-19s on the field.


A new P-26 taxiing out to takeoff at Nichols Field. #rd Pursuit Squadron, 1938. These aircraft were later handed over to the Philippine Army Air Corps.


Two P-35As being assembled at Nichols Field, end of 1940. These aircraft were originally bound for Sweden and were impounded. About 50 were sent to the Philippines, still Swedish insignia and with metric instrumentation and manuals in SWEDISH!


P-35As flying over Manila Bay, late 1941, 17th Pursuit Squadron (who soon changed to P-40Es. Note the window in the fuselage of the cargo compartment. They could (and did) carry another passenger.


Another P-35A in pre-war colors of the 17th Pursuit Squadron, early 1941, Nichols Field.


How many aircraft can you identify? Nichols Field, 1941


Rare color photo taken of one of the first B-17s in the Philippines, Oct., 1941, Iba Field (which was used for gunnery training). Nine B-17s from Hawaii arrived shortly before.


Finally the photo that tells it all. Three "generations" of aircraft are identifiable in this picture - a Keystone B-3A belonging to the PAAC, a couple of P-26s, still in U.S. colors and a relatively modern P-35A.


These, and other photos appears in an article which I wrote that appeared in Airpower Magazine in November, 1987, "And Then There Were One"
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Very interesting mate.

Any information on how they fared in combat against the Japanese? This is an area of WW2 that I know little about.
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They fared very poorly. Over half were destroyed on the ground in the first day or two. They had to learn tactics against Japanese aircraft the hard way. The P-35s were used by the 34th Pursuit Squadron and as I said, the P-26s were used by the Filipinos. A few P-26s actually got into combat with Japanese aircraft and reportedly shot down one bomber.

Even the more modern P-40ss didn't fare well, due to poor tactics, equipment failures and lack of replacements. The only ace was Boyd (Buzz) Wagner, commander of the 17th PS.
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I figured as much, against the cream of the Japanese Air Forces at the start.

I will have to do some reading on this Boyd Wagner.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:53 AM   #5
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Excellent Post!!!!

Im quite interested in the war in the pacific, and greatly appreciate this.

If you have more pics or stories to share, please do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You might want to check out my on going thread "The War In The Pacific 65 years ago". Theres "daily" summaries of the land and aerial battles in the PI, among others.
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Very nice. Thankyou for that post. As sys said, any more info or pics that you have would be nice.
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Good post. Thx.
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Good post, thanks for putting up the pics and info. Am reading "Doomed at the Start" now. About the PI campagne. Depressing.
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I need to post my pictures I took at Corregidore.
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Very cool stuff - I had a copy of that airpower magazine!
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I figured as much, against the cream of the Japanese Air Forces at the start.

I will have to do some reading on this Boyd Wagner.
LT. COL. BOYD D. "BUZZ" WAGNER, USAAF

Buzz Wagner was a "One Man Air Force."
There are many links about him, he even looked like a swave fighter pilot!


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Boyd Wagner escaped from the Philippines, and if I remember correctly, added a couple of more kills. Unfortunately, like a number of pilots, he was killed in a flying accident in late 1942.

Another outstanding pilot was William E. Dyess, commander of the 21st PS I talked to a number of veterans and without any dissent, they called him the best leader in the Philippines. He also died in a plane crash in November, 1943. He wrote "The Dyess Story" one of the most graphic telling of the Bataan Death March and prison life.

During the writing of this and other articles on this subject, it was my pleasure to chat and write with a number of former pilots and ground crewmen.

I still remember one old gentleman, a former pilot with the 17th, who hand wrote his experiences in about 30 pages!! Another pilot, who came from my hometown of Spokane WA, was a friend of Ed Dyess', flew with him on Bataan, went through the Death March and a year later, escaped with nine others (Dyess included - he planned the escape) from the Davao Penal Colony on Mindanao. They served with the guerrillas and were evacuated out (except for one who was recaptured and killed). Stuff that Hollywood wouldn't even believe!

I know a lot of you focus on the P-51, the F4U and other planes which were in their heyday when the Allies ruled the skies. My two favorite planes are the P-40 and the F4F, flown when the skies and indeed the course of the war was in considerable doubt. I will count it one of the greatest thrills of my life to have a chance to meet these men and write about them!

I can also recommend William Bartsch's "Doomed at the Start" as the most complete book on American fighters in the Philippines during this period. Bill and I were writing about this at about the same time and we even corresponded for a while.

A couple of more pictures:

1) It was customary for U.S. Army aircraft to meet incoming ships. This photo was taken from the USAT "Washington" in May, 1941. It is my favorite picture from an "artistic" standpoint:



The first page from my article in "Airpower":



I'll try to include some more pictures and stories from time to time.
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Thanks for the insight on something I've always found interesting . Is that the same Dyess as the AFB?
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One and the same. Sam Grashio, one of his fellow pilots said that Ed would be enjoying a good laugh in the Great Beyond over the fact that Dyess AFB was a SAC base, while Ed Dyess was a fighter pilot!!

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I am far more interested in the pre and early war aircraft than the later "uber" kit.

I am particularly fond of the Curtiss Hawks. Fly them a good deal in Fighter sims.

WWIIOL in particular, since its system of introducing equipment gradually, allows for a couple weeks where everyone is flying around in H.75A-3s, Hurri.Is, H.81A-2, D.520s, Bf.109E4s, etc.
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