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Old 02-04-2009, 06:22 AM   #1
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Unknown turret

This image is from an article appearing in a 1945 edition (October) of Popular Mechanics discussing belt-fed aircraft armament (American). The caption gives no clue as to what aircraft the 4-gun turret (swivelling?) belongs to...

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Old 02-04-2009, 07:00 AM   #2
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ild guess ither the p61 or b29
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This image is from an article appearing in a 1945 edition (October) of Popular Mechanics discussing belt-fed aircraft armament (American). The caption gives no clue as to what aircraft the 4-gun turret (swivelling?) belongs to...

My guess is B29 as the early 4 x .50 turret on the P-61 had a limited elevation travel relative to B-29.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:09 PM   #4
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Yep, front dorsal turret of the B-29 would be my guess.

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Old 02-04-2009, 04:38 PM   #5
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Yep, front dorsal turret of the B-29 would be my guess.

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TO - we may be often wrong but rarely uncertain.

I must confess some confusion looking for the rest of the turret ring behind the guns - it was the one detail leading me to the P-61 config which was forward firing in future models... or removed altogether
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Old 02-04-2009, 04:56 PM   #6
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I'm not really too familiar with the B-29 turrets, but I thought the inner two mgs were slightly higher than the outer pair(?).
It certainly looks like a P-61 front fairing to me in any case, but I could be wrong.
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I'm not really too familiar with the B-29 turrets...
Me neither
but I can't find a B-29 turret that shape, bar one, the tail turret and

i. that's not surrounded by so much sheet metal
ii. it didn't have a 4-gun armament
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I'm not really too familiar with the B-29 turrets, but I thought the inner two mgs were slightly higher than the outer pair(?).
I can't find a good photo on the net, but that's my impression as well Evan, the guns were staggered, not in a straight line as in the photo...

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You're right A4K. The two inside .50s were raised higher. But I'm not sure if every variant of the B-29 had the same config.

The attached photo shows the front turret without the guns.

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Here's a better photo of the B-29 turret.

Not sure, but the perspective of Graeme's original pic might not be showing the exact position of the center MGs.

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Nice photos TO! Rule out the B-29 then?
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Nice photos TO! Rule out the B-29 then?
Maybe. Not 100% sure though.

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Maybe. Not 100% sure though.

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I am still baffled by the absence of the complete turret ring as both the P-61 and B-29 turret rotated 360. I do agree this should not be the B-29 by virtue of the straight line battery.

The below reference from flight Journal sez that the B-29 and P61 turret was the same (obvious difference in 'stagger) so hard to make a case that the discussion battery was either the B-29 or P-61.. confusing even me!


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Found this photo of a P-61 turret being serviced. Configuration of the .50s looks similiar to the front top turret of the B-29.

And different from what Graeme posted.



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B-25H maybe
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