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Old 01-15-2009, 02:31 PM   #1
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US Aircraft to England?

Hi.. My mom says that prior to US involvement, four or five aircraft per day were flown to England by US military pilots who then took ships back to the USA. These US made aircraft were used by England during the war. She would like to read about the pilots. Are there any books about this topic? Many thanks from a new member.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:35 PM   #2
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Hi.. My mom says that prior to US involvement, four or five aircraft per day were flown to England by US military pilots who then took ships back to the USA. These US made aircraft were used by England during the war. She would like to read about the pilots. Are there any books about this topic? Many thanks from a new member.
IIRC - RAF and RCAF pilots did most of the flying of US aircraft prior to December 7, 1941. US pilots may have flown ships to Canada but the bulk of the pre WWII US aircraft were accepted by RCAF/RAF pilots in US and flown out from each of the factories - first to Canada.

I have been wrong before.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:18 PM   #3
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Hi.. My mom says that prior to US involvement, four or five aircraft per day were flown to England by US military pilots who then took ships back to the USA. These US made aircraft were used by England during the war. She would like to read about the pilots. Are there any books about this topic? Many thanks from a new member.
Don't see how they would have landed in England! More likely first in Northern Ireland - via Greenland & Iceland, or Scotland. Why fly the extra distance to land in 'England'!?
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:28 PM   #4
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Don't see how they would have landed in England! More likely first in Northern Ireland - via Greenland & Iceland, or Scotland. Why fly the extra distance to land in 'England'!?
IIRC, the usual route was Newfoundland-Greenland-Iceland-Scotland; they used this route throughout the War for getting aircraft from North America to Europe.
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IIRC, the usual route was Newfoundland-Greenland-Iceland-Scotland; they used this route throughout the War for getting aircraft from North America to Europe.
My point entirely, so they didn't 'land' in England!!
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There was a large base at Liverpool for US aircraft received into the UK, but if that was for planes that had flown over, or preparing aircraft that had been shipped over I don't know.
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My point entirely, so they didn't 'land' in England!!
But a lot of Americans think that 'England' is the whole UK, maybe they don't do Geography at school.
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But a lot of Americans think that 'England' is the whole UK, maybe they don't do Geography at school.
And how much US geography is taught in European schools? Would you like a test?
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I think you will find this of interest
HyperWar: Army Air Forces in WWII: Volume VII: Services Around the World [Chapter 4]
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And how much US geography is taught in European schools? Would you like a test?

Touchy. But I know the difference between the USA and North America
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And how much US geography is taught in European schools? Would you like a test?
It's not the children who need educating.

Is there anyone from CNN, who can explain why on (CNN) a map of Europe - Britain is labeled "England"!?
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I have a bad habit of callling Britain, "England". Now I know that is culturally insensitive and will refrain if possible.
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In my freshmen social studies class a kid was confused when my teacher showed a map of Britain and was referring to it as the UK... He was wondering were the country "England" went and was completely and utterly confused confused... Got a good laugh out of it

Kinda pitiful actually
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Oh, so planes were flown to the UK... I always thaught they were shipped there by carriers.

We learn new things every days.
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In my freshmen social studies class a kid was confused when my teacher showed a map of Britain and was referring to it as the UK... He was wondering were the country "England" went and was completely and utterly confused confused... Got a good laugh out of it

Kinda pitiful actually
In the junior class of my college prep school, there were kids that didn't know where China was or that Alaska bordered Canada.

Then again, isn't there some sort of saying that college is wasted on the fools?

Also, we had some English students visit, and one of them got really pissy when she was called British. I told an English friend of mine and he didn't see what the big deal was. He also gave me a lesson on the British flag.
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